EVE New Citizens Q&A

Well, sorry to hear your return to Eve has been a gank fest. The only explanation I can think of is your corp has been WarDec'ed.

If not then there's definitely something wrong, submitting a Support Ticket should provide some helpful insight into the reason why this is happening.

Now for the good stuff. No matter what security sector of space you're in, act like everyone is out to get you. After entering a mission or exploration site, get distance from the landing point asap. Always run D-scan for Combat probes and if someone lands on grid with you, be ready to warp out asap.. If a player target locks you, don't fire until they fire on you, then quickly unleash hell on them. In high security space if you're attacked, don't wait on Concord to show up, either warp out or return fire asap.

Anyway, I hope this helps and that you stay with the game. Just remember flying smart will help keep you safe.


DMC

I took a look at the killboards, the guys who shot you look to be mission baiters and working together. Aside from a bug, which is fairly unlikely as crimewatch in its current form has been around for a while now and it would have showed up before, raise a support ticket anyway if none of the following applies, there's only a couple of ways that they can kill you without Concord showing up.

We can discount wardecs because as you say your corp isn't at war, and the people who killed you are in an NPC corp anyway. That leaves flagging, how is your safety set? did you perhaps loot a can or do anything else that gives you a suspect flag?

As for getting your pod out, you need to be spamming the warp button before your ship explodes, 25-30% hull is a good time to start doing it. See here for more details and some gratuitous Jessica Alba

Looking at your aggressor's history ...

By any chance were you using a mobile tractor unit? (MTU)

Shooting a MTU earns a suspect flag. A green safety won't protect you from shooting a suspect, which creates a limited engagement, allowing him to shoot you.

Seems to be his modus operandi.

Don't shoot suspects. That's what they want you to do.

P.S. Make sure to disable auto-target-back (set to 0). It will get you killed.

Umm... did you turn yourself flashy yellow?

He's never killed another player so impossible to have killrights

He's got no pod kills and no deaths to concord so that rules that out also

I would assume that your rival has stolen some of 'your' loot and you have shot them thinking they were an NPC.

I've certainly been the aggressor in situations like that. It's fun - I highly recommend probing down mission runners, stealing something from them or shooting their MTU, then if they shoot you (which is legal), you can counterattack freely for at least 5 minutes.

I assume that by acc gate, you mean acceleration gate. You were finished with the room, but you weren't quite ready to turn the mission in.
I have a few questions:
Did you see either of the two ships turn yellow?
Did they come to your mission earlier?
Did the tackler's name in the overview change color after he targetted you?
What color was his friend's name when he warped in?

They could not have pointed you unless you had given them a limited engagement flag.
I'm pretty sure that is the only proper way what you described could have happened.

Now, I do find it interesting that there is no eve-kill for the destroyed tengu. The player who owns those two accounts seems to have sync'd them with api on the killboard, so it's odd the tengu isn't there. Maybe they did find a glitch and have been using it for a while. Perhaps the glitch's tell is that it doesn't create a valid killmail that can be exported.
That is possible but unlikely. Check both of their killboards for other highsec, non-gank pod kills without an accompanying shiploss.

It is also possible that there was no tengu, and you simply didn't notice your suspect timer when you went for a ride in your pod.
Noticing your mistake, you came to new player q&a to imply that the people who killed you were cheating.

I simply do not know.

It's possible he shot one of your rats so that the wreck was owned by him. So you looted it and became yellow.
It's also possible that he looted a wreck and dropped a canister so that you looted it and became yellow.

If your safety is on, you can't loot a wreck that isn't yours, at least in the tests I've done you can't.

It's possible they baited Concord to the far side of the system which will slow the response, but 45 seconds should be enough to get Concord about anywhere in any system.

If someone has found a way around HiSec mechanics, that's a game kick offense so I'm interested to see the outcome.

These guys have to be 100% cocky confident in their approach because you can't take down a Tengu with a cheap ship so standard Suicide Gank mechanics would not be in play. That means they must know of the loophole they are exploiting.

Is it possible this site is in some kind of grid black hole that Concord can't respond to?