EVE General Discussion

Imagine Real Life.

You set up a tournament of whatever you want and you bring in security to make sure that people don't come and crash the gates and ruin the proceedings.

But the point is that it could still happen in real life that some yobs come in and ruin the event: they could attack the spectators, they could even set off explosions or whatever.

This is what could happen in a sandboxed arena that everyone tells you to make. What won't happen is that that some magical being will make sure that your event will run smoothly and as to script.

This is the beauty of Eve and, in fact, the whole point of the game. That is: anything goes. Having an arena which no-one can invade or interfere with runs against the whole grain of the game.

Even the space areas beyond Accelerator Gates aren't separate lumps of space with magical doors; you can still get to these the long and slow way or someone could be there already waiting...

This is what Eve is about. And changing that changes the basic fundamentals of the game and very few of us wish this.

I hope that this makes things clear.

First of all. This is the world of science fiction.
And in real life I would have had the opportunity for example.
Steal money from the account of another player or his ship.
But no one says that the absence of these opportunities - against the whole grain of the game.
So there is a huge gap between our world and fantasy.
Something is taken from real life and something doesn't.

Developers already made that what you're saying.
This is an area Jove space in which there is no direct access.
What kind of grain changes you talk me, if it exists now?
I just want to demonstrate how worthy it can be used.
And small innovations such as a table of the tournament, in which people will be able to register themselves.

In fact I want things that are already there in Eve.
We received a total availability, without extra organizing events on my part or on the part of the development team.
Nobody wants a monkey work, people want fun.

Why do you persist in denying facts of existence such things in EVE?

I would say
-Dear CCP I missing in game events.
-What I have now is a piece of paper for calculations column.
-I would like further logical development of existing game mechanics.

As an example of implementing, I can tell you a story.
If you are not afraid of a small Cognitive dissonance.
As was said to me previously - generate some sand for a sandbox.

Why do you insist on seeing things that aren't there?

The reply to which has been and always will be that if you want events of that type then it is up to you to either create them or find people that have already created them
You already have all of the tools you need to achieve your goal, it's not our fault if you can't be arsed to use them.

You have absolutely no idea how the sandbox works do you?
CCP don't just generate sand and hand it out willynilly, that goes against the ethos of Eve. They give us tools to make things out of the existing sand. On that note there is a finite amount of sand in the sandbox, albeit quite a large finite, if you want some you have to take it from somebody, if you have some then expect somebody to try to take it from you.

And once again, I point out to you the glaring failure of logic you seem trapped by.

You don't actually want to play EVE, you want to play some other game that works in a fundamentally different way to EVE.

So go play that other game instead of making nonsensical arguments to change this one into something else.

And without me game will change, people i see start to complain that they afraid login capital ships.
And think how to get rid of them, then how do you like that? I can't imagine that happen some day.

If you are here for a discuss, what do you think happens if CCP make what i ask?
Do you realy think that will be different game?

All this fictional game universe exists as long as there are fools like me who believe in it. One sector more than made-up one less, let it be a Pirate sector, I do not mind.


Yes with elimination like this


Sounds brilliant where do i need to click?

That is the only sensible thing that you have posted in this thread.

Eve is not the game for you.

@Ralph

Oh here it is. This is my time to say NO.

It's not that we oppose it, it's been possible for years; what we're saying is that if it's going to be done, it should be organised by players, the rules enforced by players, security from outside interference supplied by players etc.

Eve is touted as a player driven universe, CCP gives us the tools, and in some cases plans, to build stuff, and it gives us the tools to destroy stuff, sometimes they give us new stuff or ways to build and destroy stuff. What they haven't done is take things out of the hands of the player when it comes to creating things like the OP suggests.

If there was enough demand for it, as evidenced by large numbers of people from disparate groups taking part in such activities and groups when organised by players, then there would be a case for CCP looking at putting an official stamp of approval on it, much as they did with alliances.

Currently the overall demand appears to be low, there's plenty of PvP out there if you want it, some of it is literally login and shoot someone in the face, pretty much whenever you want.