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Pirate ship rebalance - the Revenant
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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#1 - 2016-06-20 14:44:51 UTC
Since there are new pirate capitals about to join the fray, we should take a second to look at an overlooked supercapital that is in dire need of a rebalence - the Revenant.

Among changed to the slot layout, she will need some changes to her bonuses too:

Mothership ship bonus per level:

+35% afterburner speed per level

+20% agility per level

Mothership role bonus:

+ 150% fighter damage and speed per level


My suggestion would be to change to slot layout to:

5 high
8 medium
6 low

Not sure how many slot supers have but she get +1 slot because pirate faction.

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Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#2 - 2016-06-21 11:19:39 UTC
Now, I haven't actually flown one of those, so I'm hardly an expert. However, I'd like to think they cost more than a titan for a reason.
I think your proposed role bonus might be a tad too strong.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2016-06-21 12:41:44 UTC
Me neither. I put this put here as a proposal, not a demand since there are a lot of fellow capsuleers that like them and I thought, hey they are pirate faction, so they should have some more power than all "regular" motherships.

I won't say who but I know one Revenant pilot and he says they would be so much better if the Revenant had 8 mids to have a proper shield tank.

The bonuses was just to have the motherships follow the same-ish bonuses their spiked smaller classes have, since True Sansha.
So my thought was to have them have the same afterburner bonus, everything else is a raw draft.


But I invite all mothership pilots to dive in and give their thoughts. I am not not sure what is too much in that shipclass.

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#4 - 2016-06-21 15:44:26 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Me neither. I put this put here as a proposal, not a demand since there are a lot of fellow capsuleers that like them and I thought, hey they are pirate faction, so they should have some more power than all "regular" motherships.

I won't say who but I know one Revenant pilot and he says they would be so much better if the Revenant had 8 mids to have a proper shield tank.

The bonuses was just to have the motherships follow the same-ish bonuses their spiked smaller classes have, since True Sansha.
So my thought was to have them have the same afterburner bonus, everything else is a raw draft.


But I invite all mothership pilots to dive in and give their thoughts. I am not not sure what is too much in that shipclass.





I think ALL mother ships should have 8 mids so they can fit a proper tank. Out of the box they have abysmal tanking abilities. It's the most broken thing about them.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2016-06-22 18:09:23 UTC
Looking at the serpentis mothership, I think a purple hull tank would be dank.

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Cade Windstalker
#6 - 2016-06-23 15:17:54 UTC
There is no "Mothership" skill...

Also having a Role Bonus "per level" makes no sense either.

The Revenant's current bonuses are

Quote:
Amarr Carrier bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to Fighter damage
5% bonus to Fighter weapon explosion radius and explosion velocity
+3 bonus to ship warp core strength
Caldari Carrier bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to Fighter damage
20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus
+3 bonus to ship warp core strength
Role Bonus:
• Can fit Networked Sensor Array
• Can fit Burst Projectors
• Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously
• Can launch Light, Support and Heavy Fighters
• Can lock at extended ranges
400% bonus to Armor Plates and Shield Extenders
50% bonus to Remote Sensor Dampener resistance
50% bonus to Stasis effect resistance
50% increase to Remote Electronic Assistance impedance
5x penalty to Entosis Link duration


How is this a bad ship or in any way worse than the other Super Carriers?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2016-06-23 16:29:35 UTC
Oh Cade..

CCP Larrikin informed me that I didn't read the full mothership thread. Turns out CCP had the same idea as I did with the pirate capitals.

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Cade Windstalker
#8 - 2016-06-23 17:29:09 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Oh Cade..

CCP Larrikin informed me that I didn't read the full mothership thread. Turns out CCP had the same idea as I did with the pirate capitals.


I assume you're referring to this post?

Not really sure what you mean about them having the same idea though.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2016-06-23 18:03:11 UTC
Jeebus..

I did not read the mothership thread and thought the Revenant has been forgotten, she wasn't. The End.

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Cade Windstalker
#10 - 2016-06-23 19:05:49 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Jeebus..

I did not read the mothership thread and thought the Revenant has been forgotten, she wasn't. The End.


Oh okay, sorry for the confusion.

(and to clarify, I didn't dig up that thread just to ask you that, I was already active in that thread and saw the post, lol)