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Lets have a serious talk on failings of the new probe window.

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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#1 - 2016-06-13 22:35:47 UTC
Ok.....so the new map/probe window LOOKS very pretty, however some of this comes at the cost of ease of use.

Example A, the amount of glow/bloom relative to the signature pip makes it significantly difficult to spot quickly.

Example B This is further exacerbated when multiple signatures are selected/not filtered out.

Now to show the exact same scene using old soon to be deprecated scanner window
Example A
Example B

The biggest difference is again the bloom/glow effect has a tendency to obscure small details like bookmarks and the sig dot.

A majority of w-space life is spent scanning, while I fully support the upgrading of our standby tools can we please not like eye candy get int he way of utilitarianism functionality. Things like the new D-scan cone and such are AWESOME. However currently I find myself just using the old scan window in leui of the new one due to the substantially faster ability to sort/ target probes at sigs.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-06-13 22:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Agreed. The new scanner is super shiny and NEAT!, which is nice and all, but personally I'd like to be able to see wtf I am doing while I'm scanning.

Honestly, the old scanner works extremely well and while I can understand adding things like the new dscan cone to it, I cannot understand why it needed to be, i guess the word is 'modernized' so heavy handedly.

The trend these days is to make everything shinier, brighter, bigger, better!, always at the expense of functionality.
The probe scanner is a tool and as such, it needs to be first and foremost functional and clear.

I also use and vastly prefer the old scanner and will continue to use it until it goes away :(

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Jake Hicks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-06-14 00:37:15 UTC
I love the hot keys!

The Ui... Not so much.

I think a function to make the signatures more brighter would do wonders, for starters.
Gunya
FlySafe.net
#4 - 2016-06-15 00:35:14 UTC
Agreed. I think sigs, must stand out more somehow
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-06-15 01:33:44 UTC
old map with new hotkeys, perfect world

And dscan cone that's a bit less intrusive

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Lucius Kalari
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-06-15 10:49:12 UTC
I wouldn't mind having the ability to change the glow strength, and also being able to customise the colours for sigs would be nice too.
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
#7 - 2016-06-15 12:39:26 UTC
The sigs are harddr to see, thats the only complaint i have about the new map. Everything else great.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-06-15 18:22:34 UTC
also it's terribly optimized, get big fps drops when I use it :( potato pc unfriendly

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Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#9 - 2016-06-16 03:37:13 UTC
Finally settled down in a C!, and started scanning. I agree that it's very hard to see the sig you are working on and in some cases you have to really get in up close and personal before you can see it. I would much rather have it to where the sigs are highlighted as you scan so you can keep track on it.

Sure would make our work easier if there was a way to reduce clutter as well.
Winthorp
#10 - 2016-06-16 09:21:06 UTC
Lets have a serious talk about Mangos and more so why i hate the them with all my heart and people hate that i hate them?
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#11 - 2016-06-16 09:45:42 UTC
I really like the D-Scan cone, but I wish it would get dimmer as it gets broader. A full sphere should be a dull mist, not a bright globe.

The red/orange/green dots for partially scanned signatures need to be a LOT brighter.

If possible, I'd like some more 'probe launching' options.
Such as: Launch in 1/2/4AU Pinpoint Centered On Ship/Sun/Planet XYZ/Anomaly ABC/Bookmark (if this is already possible, please Dear Drifters And Travelers Of The Spacelanes; tell me how).

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Amthala
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-06-16 11:24:55 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Lets have a serious talk about Mangos and more so why i hate the them with all my heart and people hate that i hate them?

Mangos ARE strictly overrated
NoobMan
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-06-16 12:30:50 UTC
Hatshepsut IV wrote:


The biggest difference is again the bloom/glow effect has a tendency to obscure small details like bookmarks and the sig dot.



I have relayed the info to the right devs.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-06-16 12:40:11 UTC
recently did some collecting of lost drones.... Them having icons of brown crosses are very difficult to find against bright grey-blue boxes of probes.

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Faenir Antollare
For Ever And Ever
#15 - 2016-06-20 10:30:28 UTC
NoobMan wrote:
Hatshepsut IV wrote:


The biggest difference is again the bloom/glow effect has a tendency to obscure small details like bookmarks and the sig dot.



I have relayed the info to the right devs.




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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-06-21 12:23:21 UTC
NoobMan wrote:
Hatshepsut IV wrote:


The biggest difference is again the bloom/glow effect has a tendency to obscure small details like bookmarks and the sig dot.



I have relayed the info to the right devs.


Finally some CSM members who are doing something for us players. Thank you.
Linix Jouhinen
Protean Concept
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#17 - 2016-06-22 16:02:34 UTC
Last time I used the the new probes window (months ago)

-Didn't show me the point on map where I came from in a wormhole (usualy save me 1 scan or 2).
-As mentionned above and reported, the fade brown color. Red dot over blue was perfect.
-I also had trouble using the map to dscan pinpointing stuff. (PVP stuff)
-I filtre almost everything to not get stuff in my view when probing but when it comes to not probing, I have to select them all.

A+ for the shortcut and zooming beyond the system.


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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#18 - 2016-06-22 22:25:20 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:


Finally some CSM members who are doing something for us players. Thank you.



Two step, James arget and yes even Corbexx ALL did plenty for us.

Don't blame them for Chitsa "nullsec" J and wingspan.

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Amthala
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2016-06-22 23:34:07 UTC
Hatshepsut IV wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:

Finally some CSM members who are doing something for us players. Thank you.

Two step, James arget and yes even Corbexx ALL did plenty for us.
Don't blame them for Chitsa "nullsec" J and wingspan.

people actually believing that corbexx did nothing for wspace is so laughable to me that I honestly dont even know where to begin.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2016-06-23 10:46:01 UTC
Nobody said he did nothing, he did "nothing good" for wspace was the fact.

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