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[118.6] Capital Balancing

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Anthar Thebess
#681 - 2016-06-28 13:48:58 UTC
ApolloF117 HUN wrote:
Robertina Palazzo wrote:
ApolloF117 HUN wrote:
Wonder if devs do even read the forum, or they just listen to crybaby's and make their own decision regardless of looking at anything what others say what is the real problem. Just a quick question, why didn't t3s got nerfed this fast?


Small ships can never be nerfed because big ships should be easy to kill because "i want muh killboard loot"

or something.

Blin... forgot this one, we're still playing frigate online. Where is Hyde? That's why we voted for him, to do something about the situation.

Mr Hyde was lobbing this fighter changes.
For him much bigger ship cannot shoot smaller targets, unless it is battleship and frigate.
I voted for him, and now he supports frigates. Sad
mgr71 Dragon
Zbawiciel Diesel
#682 - 2016-06-28 14:07:22 UTC
Why did you betray us CCP ? I mean with previous patch you said: "We are going to make carriers relevant again. We want you guys to have fun and make some great stuff with it." and we did for the entire two months... I just tested new fighters and let me tell you - it is a bullshit. We are back to square one - carriers useless, afk ishtar ready for launch - it is just wrong. I am so disappointed................. Give me my iskies back !
Hurtado Soneka
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#683 - 2016-06-28 14:18:31 UTC
WTF with the rocket damage nerf? Absolute massive drop. CCP get a grip.

Also to a lesser extent, nerfing cap shield modules because of passive regen? HUH???

Rollback this nonsense immediately, ffs.
Dirk Stetille
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#684 - 2016-06-28 14:19:37 UTC
This nerf? Bad idea. Carriers just became useless at hitting small stuff, which makes them almost completely useless in general. No PvE for carrier pilots, and PvP is relegated to BS and below, cause there's no way they can stand up to dreads now.
ApolloF117 HUN
Puritans
We want your ISK
#685 - 2016-06-28 14:21:40 UTC
I think i got what the problem is, CCP devs got some lessons from WG devs how to **** with the playerbase Lol

Hurtado Soneka
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#686 - 2016-06-28 14:23:09 UTC
Also wtf is our daily 10k sp? that been binned as well?
Robertina Palazzo
#687 - 2016-06-28 14:24:04 UTC
Dirk Stetille wrote:
This nerf? Bad idea. Carriers just became useless at hitting small stuff, which makes them almost completely useless in general. No PvE for carrier pilots, and PvP is relegated to BS and below, cause there's no way they can stand up to dreads now.


hey dreads have haw weapons.

Just remind people who ***** about "carriers shouldnt kill subcaps" of this fact and watch them shut up immediately.
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Reckless Contingency.
#688 - 2016-06-28 14:29:35 UTC
the damage application nerf to missiles is too extreme. put it some where in the middle.
the alpha vs # missiles we can live with, but that application means they dont even hit battle ships for full damage anymore.
so please, change the exp rad to 200. its enough to make them not alpha ceptors but enough to not be helpless against them.
Blusa Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#689 - 2016-06-28 14:33:24 UTC
Especially since carriers cant use drones only fighters, you dont really have any more options for protection from small ****. Yes instapoping ceptors was to much, but its just ridiculous now .
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
#690 - 2016-06-28 14:49:19 UTC
Marcin Ichinumi wrote:
Too Much Fighter nerf!

Too Much Fighter nerf!
Halina Halinawino
Doomheim
#691 - 2016-06-28 14:55:58 UTC
Once again some brilliant mathematician from CCP is trying to convince me that after this patch Carriers will still be awesome. They were awsome for the entire month. So many players have invested bilions of ISK because they were promised that buing a carrier will finally be a smart move and now they just nerfed them to the ground. We all paid for "porsche" and now we are left with "fiat". CCP is probably extremly happy with all the injectors they sold but now it is time to give all that money back to the players.
Last thing - maybe instead of making those "brilliant" changes you could work on ingame browser or some other useful stuff ?
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#692 - 2016-06-28 14:58:06 UTC
I see the patch day crowd has arrived...
Kelly Riley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#693 - 2016-06-28 15:03:08 UTC
Too much Fighter Nerf
Vic Jefferson
ElitistOps
Trigger Happy.
#694 - 2016-06-28 15:11:05 UTC
Robertina Palazzo wrote:
Dirk Stetille wrote:
This nerf? Bad idea. Carriers just became useless at hitting small stuff, which makes them almost completely useless in general. No PvE for carrier pilots, and PvP is relegated to BS and below, cause there's no way they can stand up to dreads now.


hey dreads have haw weapons.

Just remind people who ***** about "carriers shouldnt kill subcaps" of this fact and watch them shut up immediately.


Yeah but no one moans about HAW, because they don't apply well to small things. I.E. the zeitgeist is that anything is OK if it only decimates battleships, because no one flies battleships. Which is in itself strange, as Battleships didn't need another thing on a rather long grocery list of why no one flies them.

Welcome to EvE, where its okay that small things are functionally immune to large things, but large things are hobbled, humbled, ineffective, and quite frankly worthless against small things. Hence, we only get people flying small things, and the Svipul remains the top ship in the game for a two year period.

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?

Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
#695 - 2016-06-28 15:20:30 UTC
Vic Jefferson wrote:
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and the Svipul remains the top ship in the game for a two year period.

The Svipul has only existed for 16 months.
Jack Colfield
Leviathus Industries5
#696 - 2016-06-28 15:21:24 UTC
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:
Marcin Ichinumi wrote:
Too Much Fighter nerf!

Too Much Fighter nerf!



Too Much Fighter nerf!
Vic Jefferson
ElitistOps
Trigger Happy.
#697 - 2016-06-28 15:26:51 UTC
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:
Vic Jefferson wrote:
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and the Svipul remains the top ship in the game for a two year period.

The Svipul has only existed for 16 months.

Yeah because 2 more or 2 less months of playing Svipuls online really changes the nature of the reactionary and biased balancing that this threat has really become to be about.

Every other part of CCP gets that change keeps the game fresh. Every other facet has improved by leaps and bounds for the past year, but the ship balancing people just ruminate about the golden age of nano, and never want to make the game fresh and exciting again. No one will smack talk AegisSov now; months after entire oceans of complaints and anger over it, most people have come to accept it as a force of good.

...But they won't even give carriers the chance. Sad

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?

ApolloF117 HUN
Puritans
We want your ISK
#698 - 2016-06-28 15:33:49 UTC
k , if Hyde not doing anytihng then i give you the idea, now that you nerfed the heavy "rocket" (citadel cruise missile) salvo to a level that can't be used unless the target is webed by a vindicator, make the fighters use the carrier pilot Missile Operation skills,programing much?
Nikel Ivanovich
#699 - 2016-06-28 15:42:14 UTC
give the carriers something to enable them to be called the capital. the distance of the jump? lot armor shield? dps? many drones? remove useless buttons F3. for what it's ridicule

do the developers not understand that to play in a T1 cruiser I can free the first 14 days.
why would so humiliate the ships for which it is necessary many days of subscription?
mgr71 Dragon
Zbawiciel Diesel
#700 - 2016-06-28 15:49:09 UTC
Nikel Ivanovich wrote:
give the carriers something to enable them to be called the capital. the distance of the jump? lot armor shield? dps? many drones? remove useless buttons F3. for what it's ridicule

do the developers not understand that to play in a T1 cruiser I can free the first 14 days.
why would so humiliate the ships for which it is necessary many days of subscription?


Not even days - you need MONTHS to fly capital class ship....