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We have a CSM member here in this thread, who position himself as industrialist. But he seems not bothered at all.

Considering the people claiming to be in this profession in this thread have themselves mainly talked about low & null, I really doubt they are actually having their profession taken away. Since their profession really is called logistics.

The only thing being actually taken away is the need to avoid randomly generated customs NPC's & a bunch of hassle with contracts. Someone still has to move the drugs around avoiding players now, and I'm betting most of the smart ones already do things like use jump bridges to move their drugs, exactly like..... all the rest of the logistics guys do when moving all the other products.

And in return they get a much larger market to make isk on.

I don't think this should be viewed as all that surprising, from an industrialist's perspective this is nothing but a good thing for manufacturers of Combat Boosters. This should increase the usability of their product exponentially and thus also increase demand for it, which will increase their profits since Boosters still need to be manufactured in Low and Null and are thus riskier to produce than most other goods.

The play-style that's actually taking a hit here is smuggling, though personally I think trying to warp through gates before NPCs randomly scan you isn't terribly interesting as mechanics go. It's either very very easy to defeat or incredibly incredibly hard, depending almost entirely on the SP allocation and ship choice of the player in question.

If I really wanted to move something past gates I'd probably do it in an insta-warp cloaky. Move the product to the nearest low-sec system through Cov-Ops Jump Bridges, and then either go the rest of the way in an insta-warp Inty or just keep using the cloaky. The few times I've had to use something like this to move product the only time I've so much as taken a sec-status hit was actually warping *to* a gate when the warp took a little too long to trigger, which isn't really engaging gameplay it's just bad luck with RNG.



This seems like focusing on the wrong side of things to me. The discussion here has very little to do with Null-Sec Logistics and more to do with the logistics of moving Combat Boosters. It doesn't really matter if he's right about how Null Logistics works, it matters if he's right about how Combat Boosters are moved.

The focus is clear: organized groups do logistics via jump-freighters. This is how it works. You buy stuff in Jita, you set courier contract and later get it in your alliance home system, or vise versa. While hauling from nullsec to Jita has some peculiarities (because of suicide squads), logistics from Jita is really straightforward. Cyno up, jump, dock. Login next cyno, rinse, repeat. Usually the entire thing is done by 1 human. That's it, the whole gameplay. Exciting, right?

The War on Drugs is over! In spaaaaaaace!

I wouldn't say this is really accurate. Nothing makes you use Jita but if you can then it's much more convenient for the buyer so whoever does sell there has an advantage in the market. Case and point, as soon as Faction and Deadspace modules became available on the Market tab the contracts market for them almost entirely dried up.

That's actually a thought, would it be worthwhile to allow these items to be moved but not list them on the markets, or would this just create inconvenience rather than add depth?

From buyers perspective i love this change, no more wasting the pill (or not buying at all), or asking fleet to bump you back to gate because for some reason the roam went trough 2 jumps high sec.

Dedicated booster traders (all 5 in the galaxy) will lose the market, but on the other hand the volume and gas miner profit will increase 10 times. Whole fleets, in all regions will buy this stuff. Atm it's only FAX machine pilots and some l33t solo/ small gang pvp'ers.

Another part of this great game gets their training-wheels put on. There are only so many nails needed to close this coffin CCP.
Eve is ever faster becomming space-wow... yawn

You could've made intelligent additions to this best of games, yet most all you do is taking the lazy RL "best for your economics" choice

/me starts looking for that next game with a cliff-side challenge

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