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Aurum Exodus
Trauma Inflicting
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#1 - 2016-06-08 00:08:02 UTC
Being a capsuleer is an interesting concept and has some unusually nuances to it. For example we fight against extroadinary odds, often losing, but we are simply reborn in a different area of space. The ship we just lost on the other hand, there was a crew on board that is no more, there was ammo on board that will never be used, there was metal and other materials in that a craftsman had to spend time working on, that are no more. In this role life can be taken for granted, and isk is generally the only thing many capsuleers care about, that and how many other capsuleers they can destroy. This corruption is something that I have been part of as well, but now my eyes are opening.

It is with this new found vision that I have that I address the issue of slavery. For years I have defended it, spewing all the common rhetoric, I have made excuses such as that the slaves are better off as slaves to the Amarr then as freemen in a rap tag republic, that slaves are given food and medical attention, that the slaves are given a purpose, and are brought to god. I have realized that sadly this is not a good path. This is not a righteous path. This is not a godly path. What kind of god or empire would put in chains as many as we have? What kind of god would want this much blood on our hands? I do not think any.

With the help of Jason Galente of the Pandemic Horde, my slaves have been freed and have been given employment and A place to stay working as employees in the new citadels of that capsuleer empire. I wish them all the best. Jason Galente is a shining example of what New Eden needs, and he is a strong anti-slavery voice. Should any holders need help with releasing slaves, he is the man to go to. Without him I do not know how smooth the process would have been.

As for me, what do I do at this point of time? Can I rebuild my industrially empire with paid employees? Can I return to the houses of the empire and find solace and standing there? Can I return to work as a soldier for the Imperial Cause? Sure I could, but it would not feel right. Under neath the glory of the empire, all the glitz and glammer, all the Amarr Victors, there is blood and sweat on everything. It is not beautiful nor is there any glory to be had in these gilded halls. The facade for me at least has fallen, will it fall for the rest of you?

I am in a bind, I can do the easy thing, the thing I have always done and Choose the Empire, and be faithful. This is not what I will do, I need to do the hardest thing I have ever done and walk the tougher path. In the decision of choosing Empire or Honour, I will choose Honour.

I hereby renounce my title as a holder of the Amarrian Empire, I shall take up with the Republic Fleet and fight my former brothers until the Empire finds enough grace to do what we all know they should do.

For the first time in my life I am truly a free many, not bound by the law of a tyrant Imperial Dictatorship or the Written word of a viscious heathen god. So, my first words as a truly free man:

"GLORY TO THE REPUBLIC"
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#2 - 2016-06-08 00:29:16 UTC
Um....... You had slaves, then because Jason Galante (yes a good man IMHO) said to free them you are and now looking to fight for the Republic. Honors a fickle thing, while yes it's the Honorable thing to me, how is it to you? Don't think I'm trying to talk you down or anything but uh........ It's odd that you had a rather drastic change of heart. You weren't connected to your slaves in any meaningful way I'd imagine yet you are throwing what you were away to fight for us. Don't mind me for being suspicious on this one.
Aurum Exodus
Trauma Inflicting
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#3 - 2016-06-08 01:03:12 UTC
I was not as close to my slaves as I wanted to be sadly, but they had a great oppurtunity, one better than I could offer them, so they were freed and I told them about the oppurtunity and almost all of them went. A few agreed to stay on with me in a paid posistion on my staff, and a good number went to the republic to find whatever it is they are looking for. As for me, well, lets be honest. I called out God and Empire, the Ministry of Internal Order will do doubt have my been to my estate searching for me. I have seen the things that happen when you speak out against the empire. The Imperial word is Gods word, and it is law, I have now publically stated that I find it vile and covered in blood so..............you tell me please, even if I wanted to, how would I return to service in the Empire without having to answer some serious questions and possibly being in serious trouble? As far as joining the republic, well you can be part of the problem or part of the solution. I decided for me, helping the republic may in some small way repay the suffering I have caused to so many.
Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-06-08 01:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Karina Ivanovich
Honour is but wind. It is simply the manifestation of the machinations of those in power. Look around you. See the countless numbers of people in this galaxy. Now see the innumerable amount of corpses that litter the skies. Ask them if Honour matters to them. It does not. Honour means nothing to the dead.

There is a saying in the Republic, it goes like this. "A man's word is his bond." But why should you be bound by your words? Why should what you say yesterday be deemed just as important, or even more important, than what you say today? You learn new things every minute of every hour. Perspective changes, as do opinions and ideas. Why should we become the slave of our own past?


What is a lie if not another's truth?
What is truth but someone's perception?
The eyes of those that see clearly are often blind.
Yet the blind often see the answer plain.

Fault not the deaf for being deaf.
Rather shun those that pluck out their own eyes.
Silence the mouths of those that speak truth.
Delve not into secrets unbecoming.

Perception of others is always skewed.
The voices of one are always lies.
Plant not the seeds of hatred.
Look and and learn in due time.

The word of the shepherd is golden.
But inside the flock lurks a wolf.
And others don sheep's gilded clothing.
Still others stalk the meat for their pies.

In victory you must find defeat.
In loss you must find triumph.
In pain find wisdom.
In sadness the heart's desire.
Creep ye now on silent pastures.
Moving through the paths of life.
Question not the things that matter.
Just live this world of love and strife.

Must one die to join the fold?
Or is the flock merely lost within the dark?


Honour is dead. Words are wind. There is only one thing that will truly hold a man's heart steadfast and without deceit. Kinship. Kinship is the mortar that holds Empires together. Why do the Caldari hold strong and fast against the giant navies of the Galente Empire? Because we share the kinship of being oppressed as well as holding a strong national unity. Why do the Galente not fall apart? Their culture holds them together as family. The Amarr? To them they are all children of their one god. And the Republic because they are all a family of former slaves.

Humanity flocks to humanity. Not words or Ideas. A speech may inspire an army for a battle. But kinship, standing arm in arm with your sisters in battle, that will fuel a war.

Honour is but wind
Blowing across the desert
Dust that falls like ash

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
Aurum Exodus
Trauma Inflicting
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#5 - 2016-06-08 01:23:17 UTC
While your poetry is beautiful, Honor is important, at least to me. That being said, while disagreeing with your post in and of its self, I did enjoy it. Thank you.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-06-08 02:11:20 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Um....... You had slaves, then because Jason Galante (yes a good man IMHO) said to free them you are and now looking to fight for the Republic. Honors a fickle thing, while yes it's the Honorable thing to me, how is it to you? Don't think I'm trying to talk you down or anything but uh........ It's odd that you had a rather drastic change of heart. You weren't connected to your slaves in any meaningful way I'd imagine yet you are throwing what you were away to fight for us. Don't mind me for being suspicious on this one.


To clarify,

Aurum Exodus reached out on the IGS trying to find anyone willing to take in his 80,000 former slaves so that he could release them with the knowledge that they would have someplace safe to go. I offered to take them in, give them training, housing, good pay, and employment. And their freedom. They are currently receiving training at my expense at Pillow Fortizar, and are free to leave at any time. We will provide them a one way shuttle to anywhere in the cluster if they choose to leave.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Aurum Exodus
Trauma Inflicting
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#7 - 2016-06-08 02:40:37 UTC
Thank you again Jason.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2016-06-08 06:20:00 UTC
The Empire is the embodiment of honour. As such, the distinction between Empire and honour is a false one.

All I see from Exodus' post is an attempted justification for betrayal and treachery.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Solu Terona
Alexylva Paradox
#9 - 2016-06-08 06:51:47 UTC
When theology preaches unjust indulgence and impure thoughts, the heretics will rise and speak truth.

Welcome to the ranks of the truly enlightened Amarrians Aurum.

I'll have to ask around and see if Origin has any such battlecries that I might join my voice with yours.

Humans must eventually break out from the limits of biology, its not radical to accept the inevitable.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-06-08 07:40:42 UTC
In all what you have written, Mr. Exodus I do not see the choice of Honour and Empire. I don't see Honour in your actions at all.

What I can see is your choice of the EMPIRE OR TREASON.

And treason is one of the greatest dishonors. If you had any Honour, Mr. Exodus, you have finally lost it when you made this choice. There simply can no be honorable traitors.

The Betrayal is such strong Dishonor, that it casts shadow not only on yourself, but on your whole family.

If you will DARE to claim yourself honorable after such despicable act, you shall prove your honour. And the only thing to do this is to bring apologies to the Empire, your former friends and to take your own life, washing away dishonor with your own blood.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Anataine Deva
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-06-08 07:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Anataine Deva
Being a piece of property for over 16 years myself, I'm glad you, Aurum, came finally to the right conclusion about slavery.

In retrospect I had luck with my owner. He treated me comparatively good. I had a roof over my head, a bed, good clothes, never had to starve and could live together with my mother. In many things I had it better than most of the free people, yes. But what I never had was freedom. The simple freedom to go where I want. To make my own decissions about my life, my future, the people I care about. That's something people who were born free, who never had to fight to get that privilege will understand or value high enough.

Again, I'm glad you came to the right conclusion and I really hope you stick to your words.

And about honor: Honor is an invention of men to justify their own atrocities. As such it's most commonly used by those who either don't have nor deserve it.

Give The BIG Lottery a try (it's conform with the EULA) and me your Fedos!
Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-06-08 13:15:05 UTC
Aurum Exodus wrote:
While your poetry is beautiful, Honor is important, at least to me. That being said, while disagreeing with your post in and of its self, I did enjoy it. Thank you.


Let me be clear. I have no qualms about you freeing slaves or deciding to help them live better lives. What I find despicable is how easily you seem to have thrown away your country and your people. Maybe it is different in Amari space, but here in the State It is the hight of dishonour to abandon ones counrty.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-06-08 13:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Disobedience to tyranny is obedience to God.

Just do me a personal favor Aurum, in exchange for taking on these new free men, women and children and giving them a place to go.

Don't trade one dogma for another. Be free yourself.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Solu Terona
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2016-06-08 14:54:16 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
While your poetry is beautiful, Honor is important, at least to me. That being said, while disagreeing with your post in and of its self, I did enjoy it. Thank you.


Let me be clear. I have no qualms about you freeing slaves or deciding to help them live better lives. What I find despicable is how easily you seem to have thrown away your country and your people. Maybe it is different in Amari space, but here in the State It is the hight of dishonour to abandon ones counrty.


In Amarr its the same, abandoning the church gets you branded as a heretic with little hope of ever being accepted back. To most Amarrians this would be "a fate worse than death" because it means consignment to hell. And since the church is the state voicing political dissent often has religious consequences such as excommunication.

For me the horrors of slavery were what did it for me, i couldn't support such a system or the government that allowed it...

to put it in a more understandable context, imagine if the caldari were still part of the galente federation, but the galenteans ethnically discriminated against the caldari to an absurd degree. Confining most of the population to slum towns, and then every year for a thousand years they would pick the most populous town they could find and would carpet bomb it from orbit with anti-matter. No matter your opinions on the galtente as a whole its no small stretch to imagine that some galente would find the practice sickening on all levels and would abandon the federation were they unable to change it.

apologies to anyone who might have been eating lunch...

Humans must eventually break out from the limits of biology, its not radical to accept the inevitable.
Mitara Newelle
Newelle Family
#15 - 2016-06-08 15:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mitara Newelle
You were free to do what you wish with your slaves and your titles. If you wanted to be free of them it was quite simple to be so. However, you have gone much further. You are a traitor with the blood of your former countrymen on your hands. May you be stricken from the Book of Records for your treachery.

Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-06-08 15:42:43 UTC
Mitara Newelle wrote:
You were free to do what you wish with your slaves and your titles. If you wanted to be free of them it was quite simple to be so. However, you have gone much further. You are a traitor with the blood of your former countrymen on your hands. May you be stricken from the Book of Records for your treachery.


For those who find slavery as an institution truly abhorrent, serving the empire that promotes and preserves it as an institution is not an option.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#17 - 2016-06-08 15:59:53 UTC
Solu Terona wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
While your poetry is beautiful, Honor is important, at least to me. That being said, while disagreeing with your post in and of its self, I did enjoy it. Thank you.


Let me be clear. I have no qualms about you freeing slaves or deciding to help them live better lives. What I find despicable is how easily you seem to have thrown away your country and your people. Maybe it is different in Amari space, but here in the State It is the hight of dishonour to abandon ones counrty.


In Amarr its the same, abandoning the church gets you branded as a heretic with little hope of ever being accepted back. To most Amarrians this would be "a fate worse than death" because it means consignment to hell. And since the church is the state voicing political dissent often has religious consequences such as excommunication.

For me the horrors of slavery were what did it for me, i couldn't support such a system or the government that allowed it...

to put it in a more understandable context, imagine if the caldari were still part of the galente federation, but the galenteans ethnically discriminated against the caldari to an absurd degree. Confining most of the population to slum towns, and then every year for a thousand years they would pick the most populous town they could find and would carpet bomb it from orbit with anti-matter. No matter your opinions on the galtente as a whole its no small stretch to imagine that some galente would find the practice sickening on all levels and would abandon the federation were they unable to change it.

apologies to anyone who might have been eating lunch...

In B4 Kimmy claims this is what happened.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#18 - 2016-06-08 16:00:46 UTC
A lot of people think that honor is whatever they want honor to be. That "being right with yourself" is honor, that acting in a way you personally consider good is 'honorable'. Honor is upholding your cause despite the difficulties, doing things you don't want to do because it is your duty, and keeping your word. Honor often means doing things you dislike, because you are sworn to something greater than yourself.

There's nothing honorable about treason and infidelity. Those things are the very definition of dishonorable. Call it a better path if you want, but it is not honor that you are upholding.

Oh, and I hope you are pleased with yourself, sending those slaves to a capsuleer citadel. Let us know how long they live before it gets destroyed in some petty capsuleer war. Don't act like sending those people to capsuleers is better than where they were. Capsuleers are monsters in their own right.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#19 - 2016-06-08 16:06:27 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
A lot of people think that honor is whatever they want honor to be. That "being right with yourself" is honor, that acting in a way you personally consider good is 'honorable'. Honor is upholding your cause despite the difficulties, doing things you don't want to do because it is your duty, and keeping your word. Honor often means doing things you dislike, because you are sworn to something greater than yourself.

There's nothing honorable about treason and infidelity. Those things are the very definition of dishonorable. Call it a better path if you want, but it is not honor that you are upholding.

Oh, and I hope you are pleased with yourself, sending those slaves to a capsuleer citadel. Let us know how long they live before it gets destroyed in some petty capsuleer war. Don't act like sending those people to capsuleers is better than where they were. Capsuleers are monsters in their own right.

At least there they get to choose if they stay or not. It's far better than being in the hands of the Amarr, they have control over their own fate now. If they die in that citadel then they died free to make that choice, same as any other civilian who lives there.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-06-08 16:27:40 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
A lot of people think that honor is whatever they want honor to be. That "being right with yourself" is honor, that acting in a way you personally consider good is 'honorable'. Honor is upholding your cause despite the difficulties, doing things you don't want to do because it is your duty, and keeping your word. Honor often means doing things you dislike, because you are sworn to something greater than yourself.

There's nothing honorable about treason and infidelity. Those things are the very definition of dishonorable. Call it a better path if you want, but it is not honor that you are upholding.

Oh, and I hope you are pleased with yourself, sending those slaves to a capsuleer citadel. Let us know how long they live before it gets destroyed in some petty capsuleer war. Don't act like sending those people to capsuleers is better than where they were. Capsuleers are monsters in their own right.


We are monsters true enough. All of us are. And space is the bed we hide under, for without having a place to call home, we would engulf the world's entire.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
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