Crime & Punishment

I know what BAW do, I also noted that most war dec entities try to follow what they do, so you expect people not to learn that and avoid, come on seriously. Did I say I expected a pistol at dawn between gentleman, hell no, thats you projecting on me. What I said is taht the preyed upon have become wary of BAW and all the wanabe's so they don't bother, even more striking is that there are less people in hisec that are real hisec players that are prepared to fight.

I read that thread where people lambasted them for taking that fight for fun, that was most amusing, I also spend a fair amount of time looking at war dec entities killboards and their threads, the majority of kills are on null sec groups flying through, other wise its noob ships and shuttles with the odd person who has no idea what a war dec is and has a horrible surprise, which is kinda funny.

Finally to blame carebears for your own caution is very amusing, "we don't take fun fights because of carebears", come on be serious. I do note that war dec entities do get some merc contracts which is a small percentage out of the huge number of decs they have and they do save POCO's, Citadels and POS's at times for their clients, but they are not that many and when it does happen they do tend to brag about it to highlight that they actually did a merc contract.

Didn't read your wall of mad tearful text, but you seem to be crying to be decced. Guess you earned it.

I agree with you, the will to fight in hisec by hisec entities was broken before the watch list changed, I said in my post above that all it did was remove the few people who actually hunted because as you know it requires too much effort.

I am explaining why hisec people do not fight from my perspective of having talked to a lot of people in hisec over the years and my own experience with war decs after I took down a gankers POS, plus my observations of the war dec entities having looked at their killboards, read their threads, and watched them in action.

The OP has already made up his mind, its the carebears fault for being well carebears, while I see it as over fishing in a sea of people who have no interest and have learnt that there is no fun for them to even try. If the Op wants to shrill its the carebears fault then I will just laugh, it was rather telling that this person went straight into a personal attack on me, classic and funny.

Hmm don't even remember you, currently don't believe you stopped anything unless it was the time we took on the entire merc core. But yea still don't recall you, but happy a tearful noob remembers me.

Your killboard is a yawning experience.

Deadly fingertips died this year, not last year, Absolute Defiance died last year, yes an alliance I was head of but it died because we were at war with 5 merc groups and our player activity took a big hit because of it, deadly went on after the death of the alliance to die on its own without me even in the Corp. Please check your sources again since your clearly wrong.

I speak my mind and I don't care about the consequences of it. Your attitude is dull and bleak because that's what you make of this game, after all Eve is what you make of it.

So OP, lets get to you personally seeing as you went there with me, you looked at my KB and made some sark comments, and yet you failed to put your money where your mouth is and war dec me, and why is that?

That is because you have a target selection, you want indy players that have no SP in PvP and have no experience, against me you would be out of your comfort zone. You are your own problem in terms of your target selection, I only get war decs from blanket large war dec entities, never from people like you. Of course you can now war dec me behind the blanket war deccer and say you win, but that is what CODE did to me once, only did a dec against me because Marmite had a dec in before hand.

You are part of the issue you are a player who think you are entitled to knock off low SP players and the like in terms of PvP and because they are drying up due to the over fishing you cry like a baby. And emphasis on the baby because if you were not I would have had a war dec from you first. Because of your crying, cowardice and entitled attitude I have had my interest sparked, lets see where this takes me.

I rather like you, and no you are not trolling, I have read enough of your posts to value what you say.

I did not used to go on about crying, but so many people like the OP do it that its kind of hard not to slip into the usage of that term, for example James 315 was so upset over the change to can flipping he created CODE and I find it funny that CODE was created on the back of tears. When Devils said their good bye thread I suggested an alternative, I also suggested that if CCP make an Observatory structure that gave some watch list functionality it would create content, meaningful content. It was good to see another poster who I respect make a similar suggestion in this thread, but that is too arena like for my taste.

Ganking and war decs are content, however what I have noted is that people in hisec are conditioned not to bother, I have my own reasons not to bother, for example I won't bother doing anything with this war dec I just got, I have some work to do in painting some iron railings, now would be a good time to do it, should take out most of the week, then there is Witcher 3 Blood and Wine too. When I got that war dec from Marmite after we took down that POS I was unable to push my corp mates to set up to go after them, there is a state of mind.

I have seen some people go after the blanket war decs, but no one from hisec does it, and that is mainly because they are not into PvP.

I know people who were the leaders of the first mass war dec groups and one of them who sold his characters vowing never to come back did so because hunting had been made too easy in his words.

Kaarous was a tool, because he was unable to work out the difference between those who cry and those that want to adjust, my focus here was to explain why people in hisec don't bother from what I have seen and find ways to push people to want to fight back and I think that Observatory structure for watch list functionality per constellation would be a good one.

Yes my corp is largely inactive and yes there is no point in war deccing me, Archtype. just wasted 50m.

But here is what I feel upfront and too the point, if people set themselves up to be perfect killing machines that never really lose, should they expect people who are not skilled in this to blindly rush under their guns and keep doing it with a smile on their face, especially as hisec is the worst area in the game to make ISK. I think that the pool of stupid people in hisec has largely dried up, all that is really left are veterans who have seen it all before. And that is what I project, hard cold reality.

Calm down ganker, we have it on very good authority that James 315 threw a hissy fit in a burst of tears. And by the way I only react to gankers operating around me against miners and to freighters that I feel I can reach in time, you being all the way over in Metropolis is of no interest to me whatsoever, now if you came near to me I will take great pleasure in blowing you up.

You made it pretty clear if I wardecced you you would just go inactive or disband as you encourage all the other carebears to do. I did actually debate deccing you anyway with my forum alt here, just to make a point as you ran and hid from a character that literally doesn't log in... - but I'm sick of wasting my isk on cowards like you.

However, for the record, I *have* been more selective in my wars lately. I've been specifically scouring killboards/etc to find people with some actual roaming history and kills, in the hopes that maybe that will give them the courage to fight. And what have I found? Less than 3 months ago, I camped a war target fleet composed of - and I **** you not - a *Vindicator*, *Navy Megathron*, *Hyperion*, *exequror*, *vexor*, and a couple of frigates - including in this case my spy alt in a kestrel (which is how I know the exact fleet comp, since it never came out). And what monstrous ship did it take to camp all of these ships into a station for *over an hour* - after they had specially fit them up just so they could supposedly fight me? I was in a *Procurer* mining barge. They never engaged. I know they have buffed mining ships ridiculously....but that is just sad.

As for targeting your killboard and you personally - I look at the killboards of every noob who tells me to "go try REAL PvP in 0.0" - because invariably I find that they are nothing but a whiny hypocrite.



And as for the rest of your ranting/raving - I said from the beginning that I know *what* the issue is. The spirit of the carebears has broken. I said that in my first post. My question was never *what* happened - it was *why* it happened. And the reasons you give are ridiculous. Nothing but whiny excuses.

To be fair though, your post wasn't entirely useless for the topic. You run pretty much the only organization that supposedly has the goal of helping High Sec players band together to make High Sec better....and you are as big a coward as any of them. Ultimately there is no one single cause, but from the responses I've seen in this thread I have come to believe that people like *you* are a major part of the cause. Portraying yourself as experts and then going out of your way to lie to the new players and tell them that they should just roll over and give up without trying.