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Was the orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime necessary?
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Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2016-06-02 22:29:28 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
The bombardment of Caldari Prime was necessary, to produce the desired situation that the Jovians wished to observe.

By utilising their infiltrator agents within both governments, they created the swells of nationalistic feeling that ultimately led to the war.

Then they poured fuel onto the flames, to escalate the conflict, ultimately resulting in the bombardment of Caldari Prime, and the evacuation of the Caldari people.

The aim of this project, was to study a large-scale stellar conflict between differing technological cultures, something that the Jovians did not have a lot of data on.

By selectively disseminating various technologies, e.g. the capsule as given to the Caldari, the Jovians were able to perpetuate the conflict, and study it in more detail.

And that, is why the Jove Empire must be destroyed.

well most of the Jovians are dead with the exception of the drifters so the Jove aren't really an empire anymore
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-06-02 22:32:06 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Oh, gallentean genocidists blame others who did never commited genocide in genocide? How cute... NOT.

Also, I don't know how you imagining cleaning something with Gallentean CHAOS, maybe wiping your own *censored* with it? But as I said in another discussion, how about you meet me in space so I could laugh looking how you die like all other gallentean swines.

you did commit genocide just not to Gallente does Tibus Heth's clone purge ring any bells
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#23 - 2016-06-03 13:33:42 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
*Citation needed.


Jovian Observatories, my dear.

Jovian Observatories have been spotted in position to observe Gallente and Caldari Prime.

It is well known, that Jovian agents gave certain technologies to various parties, notably the capsule to certain Caldari corporations.

And, following the revealing of the Jovian Observatories, and the collection of data from them, we observed fragmentary records including:

"23154-12-12 - Randomized sweeps of recently seceded Caldari communications indicate that alternative source for model of social cohesion will be increasingly defined by opposition to Gallente model. Schism becoming pronounced. Threshold for constructive comparison of existing conditions approaching. "
and:
"23121-09-11 - Updated Gallente status provides a model for social cohesion. Suggest further observations are shared with Modifier enclaves."

And, you will note, that 23154 was the old-calendar year of the Caldari secession from the Federation.

And you will also note, that the Jovian data mentions "constructive comparison", i.e. that the Jovians were interested in studying both Gallente and Caldari social models, and their responses to various stimuli, including what happens when one or other of the involved parties gains a technological edge.

Jovians.

Refuse to be a Jovian test subject. Resist Jovian psy-attack. CONCENTRATE. MOTIVATE. PREVAIL.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#24 - 2016-06-03 17:04:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
Would somebody please remind me how to avoid Jovian culture? EDIT: could somebody wormholey explain what the significance of passing the data onto Modifier enclaves is? I thought Modifiers were just into bodymodding?

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#25 - 2016-06-03 17:32:59 UTC
Hey, the crazy thing is that "Doctor" Valate makes a more coherent point than the counterpart topic can ever hope to be.

Anyway, evidence of Jovian observation is not evidence of Jovian infiltration. Blaming every atrocity on the Jovians might be a convenient moral fig leaf, but it would truly be only cowardice and refusal to learn from failure.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#26 - 2016-06-03 18:31:32 UTC
Neph wrote:
Would somebody please remind me how to avoid Jovian culture? EDIT: could somebody wormholey explain what the significance of passing the data onto Modifier enclaves is? I thought Modifiers were just into bodymodding?


The best defence is a strong offence.

To resist Jovian psy-assault, think strong, violent, unpredictable thoughts.

You are hungry, you fancy a sandwich. The sandwich turns into a 6-sided dice. You roll the dice. It turns up number 1. A second dice appears. It is also number 1. Snake eyes. The dice turn into a snake, that hisses and launches itself at you. It's not a snake, it's an Eagle. A Gallente Eagle. It's not the Gallente Eagle, it's a Phoenix. It bursts into flames. The flames are the bombardment of Caldari Prime. The sky turns dark. It begins to rain. The rain is full of black dust. It is the dust of burnt corpses. You try to scream, but you have no mouth. You are a burnt corpse. You are the cold roasted meat in a lunch sandwich. You eat the sandwich. You are no longer hungry. You look up. It is the sun. The sky turns dark, a shadow passes in front of the sun. It is a winged demon, with a 9-bladed sword. The demon says "The End is Nigh". You look down. You are naked. Your lover caresses your naked body. You laugh, and crush the life out of them with your many metal tentacles. You are a rogue drone dreadnought, and you laugh as you crush the human ships with your gripping appendage. You consume the metals and organic compounds. You become a small moon, that sprouts wings and flies through the heavens. You impact upon the Jove homeworld in an extinction-level event. The Jovians burst into flames.

Think things like that. They'll make any Jovians that are attempting to manipulate you lose their focus.

CONCENTRATE

MOTIVATE

PREVAIL

RESIST JOVE PSY-ATTACK.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-06-04 17:36:44 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Neph wrote:
Would somebody please remind me how to avoid Jovian culture? EDIT: could somebody wormholey explain what the significance of passing the data onto Modifier enclaves is? I thought Modifiers were just into bodymodding?


The best defence is a strong offence.

To resist Jovian psy-assault, think strong, violent, unpredictable thoughts.

You are hungry, you fancy a sandwich. The sandwich turns into a 6-sided dice. You roll the dice. It turns up number 1. A second dice appears. It is also number 1. Snake eyes. The dice turn into a snake, that hisses and launches itself at you. It's not a snake, it's an Eagle. A Gallente Eagle. It's not the Gallente Eagle, it's a Phoenix. It bursts into flames. The flames are the bombardment of Caldari Prime. The sky turns dark. It begins to rain. The rain is full of black dust. It is the dust of burnt corpses. You try to scream, but you have no mouth. You are a burnt corpse. You are the cold roasted meat in a lunch sandwich. You eat the sandwich. You are no longer hungry. You look up. It is the sun. The sky turns dark, a shadow passes in front of the sun. It is a winged demon, with a 9-bladed sword. The demon says "The End is Nigh". You look down. You are naked. Your lover caresses your naked body. You laugh, and crush the life out of them with your many metal tentacles. You are a rogue drone dreadnought, and you laugh as you crush the human ships with your gripping appendage. You consume the metals and organic compounds. You become a small moon, that sprouts wings and flies through the heavens. You impact upon the Jove homeworld in an extinction-level event. The Jovians burst into flames.

Think things like that. They'll make any Jovians that are attempting to manipulate you lose their focus.

CONCENTRATE

MOTIVATE

PREVAIL

RESIST JOVE PSY-ATTACK.

there is no Jovian psy attack
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#28 - 2016-06-04 18:48:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
Slayer Liberator wrote:
there is no Jovian psy attack


Back me up on this, but doesn't that sound suspiciously like what somebody under a Jove psy attack would say?

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-06-04 19:02:25 UTC
Neph wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
there is no Jovian psy attack


Back me up on this, but doesn't that sound suspiciously like what somebody under a Jove psy-attack would say?

maybe but if I was under this Psy attack I would just join the Jovian Directorate and use their technology, not Gallente tech.
Aurum Exodus
Trauma Inflicting
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#30 - 2016-06-07 23:33:03 UTC
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-06-09 23:58:34 UTC
Aurum Exodus wrote:
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.

no they are not
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#32 - 2016-06-10 00:26:53 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.

no they are not

They are if you're using my patented "Orbital Heat Seeking High Intensity Tremor Rounds" (or O.H.S.H.I.T. rounds for short) Designed to seek out the largest heat source and detonate 300 meters above it releasing a burst of confetti, glitter, and a DJ drone equipped with stage lights and a 36 hour Playlist of culturally appropriate club music with the bass turned up to 11!

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2016-06-10 00:35:21 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.

no they are not

They are if you're using my patented "Orbital Heat Seeking High Intensity Tremor Rounds" (or O.H.S.H.I.T. rounds for short) Designed to seek out the largest heat source and detonate 300 meters above it releasing a burst of confetti, glitter, and a DJ drone equipped with stage lights and a 36 hour Playlist of culturally appropriate club music with the bass turned up to 11!

In that case they are but other times they are horrible
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#34 - 2016-06-10 04:55:37 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:

You are hungry, you fancy a sandwich. The sandwich turns into a 6-sided dice. You roll the dice. It turns up number 1. A second dice appears. It is also number 1. Snake eyes. The dice turn into a snake, that hisses and launches itself at you. It's not a snake, it's an Eagle. A Gallente Eagle. It's not the Gallente Eagle, it's a Phoenix. It bursts into flames. The flames are the bombardment of Caldari Prime. The sky turns dark. It begins to rain. The rain is full of black dust. It is the dust of burnt corpses. You try to scream, but you have no mouth. You are a burnt corpse. You are the cold roasted meat in a lunch sandwich. You eat the sandwich. You are no longer hungry. You look up. It is the sun. The sky turns dark, a shadow passes in front of the sun. It is a winged demon, with a 9-bladed sword. The demon says "The End is Nigh". You look down. You are naked. Your lover caresses your naked body. You laugh, and crush the life out of them with your many metal tentacles. You are a rogue drone dreadnought, and you laugh as you crush the human ships with your gripping appendage. You consume the metals and organic compounds. You become a small moon, that sprouts wings and flies through the heavens. You impact upon the Jove homeworld in an extinction-level event. The Jovians burst into flames.


I would think Jovian psyops would need a lot more cuils than that to prevent.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2016-06-10 13:07:31 UTC
You would, if you could, but it looks like the God has deprived you of this privilege.

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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#36 - 2016-06-11 11:10:44 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Anyway, evidence of Jovian observation is not evidence of Jovian infiltration. Blaming every atrocity on the Jovians might be a convenient moral fig leaf, but it would truly be only cowardice and refusal to learn from failure.


If Jovian agents were behind the Ultra-Nationalists, then, any lessons learned from studying the rise and fall of ultra-nationalism in the Gallente Federation would be flawed. Flawed data leads to faulty conclusions.

The peoples of New Eden must free themselves from Jovian manipulation. Only then can real self-determination be achieved.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2016-06-18 16:26:39 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
Anyway, evidence of Jovian observation is not evidence of Jovian infiltration. Blaming every atrocity on the Jovians might be a convenient moral fig leaf, but it would truly be only cowardice and refusal to learn from failure.


If Jovian agents were behind the Ultra-Nationalists, then, any lessons learned from studying the rise and fall of ultra-nationalism in the Gallente Federation would be flawed. Flawed data leads to faulty conclusions.

The peoples of New Eden must free themselves from Jovian manipulation. Only then can real self-determination be achieved.

I'm going to say it one more time, The Jove are dead
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2016-06-18 16:41:12 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.

no they are not

They are if you're using my patented "Orbital Heat Seeking High Intensity Tremor Rounds" (or O.H.S.H.I.T. rounds for short) Designed to seek out the largest heat source and detonate 300 meters above it releasing a burst of confetti, glitter, and a DJ drone equipped with stage lights and a 36 hour Playlist of culturally appropriate club music with the bass turned up to 11!

In that case they are but other times they are horrible


Depends on the kind of orbital bombardment. Wide-area saturation bombardment against population centres? Absolutely horrific and unnecessary. Surgical bombardment against ground targets of strategic value? Very useful and very necessary.

The best artillery any dirt-stomper can count on is right up there in orbit. Second best will be from the air. Third best will be ground-based.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2016-06-18 16:44:42 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Aurum Exodus wrote:
Orbital bombardments are always neccasary.

no they are not

They are if you're using my patented "Orbital Heat Seeking High Intensity Tremor Rounds" (or O.H.S.H.I.T. rounds for short) Designed to seek out the largest heat source and detonate 300 meters above it releasing a burst of confetti, glitter, and a DJ drone equipped with stage lights and a 36 hour Playlist of culturally appropriate club music with the bass turned up to 11!

In that case they are but other times they are horrible


Depends on the kind of orbital bombardment. Wide-area saturation bombardment against population centres? Absolutely horrific and unnecessary. Surgical bombardment against ground targets of strategic value? Very useful and very necessary.

The best artillery any dirt-stomper can count on is right up there in orbit. Second best will be from the air. Third best will be ground-based.

Guess you're right I have fallen victim to and have directed these strikes before in my days as an immortal mercanary
Aradina Varren
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#40 - 2016-06-18 21:57:39 UTC
What drugs are you all on and where can I get some?

Feels Pretty Soft to Me.
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