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Was the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor necessary?

Author
James Syagrius
Reclamation
#261 - 2016-06-21 00:28:55 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
In Caldari State same sex marriages are neither acknowledged nor legal.

We aren't savages like gallentes to allow such deviation and unnatural perversion.

Kyfigatkla hatsk blovitt.


I could not have said it better.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#262 - 2016-06-21 01:21:34 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Kim, how do you say freedom fighter in Napaani? I want to know how to clearly identify myself if we end up on your side of the cluster. No this is not a troll and yes I'd like to know how to say terrorist too if possible. Thanks!

Sure, if you'd like to have rotten tomatoes tossed to your face.
"Freedom fighter" in Napanii is "Vaajpa Sentokan"

As for terrorist, I am not sure it would provoke any form of reaction, terrorists are just terrorists. Well, maybe we would laugh at you a bit, since you don't look very scary. Maybe instead of calling yourself a terrorist, say something like 'Yarrr!' Show us your war face?

And... cute sebiestor squeaking "Fear the tribes!" That gonna be so funny!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#263 - 2016-06-21 02:09:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Kim, how do you say freedom fighter in Napaani? I want to know how to clearly identify myself if we end up on your side of the cluster. No this is not a troll and yes I'd like to know how to say terrorist too if possible. Thanks!

Sure, if you'd like to have rotten tomatoes tossed to your face.
"Freedom fighter" in Napanii is "Vaajpa Sentokan"

As for terrorist, I am not sure it would provoke any form of reaction, terrorists are just terrorists. Well, maybe we would laugh at you a bit, since you don't look very scary. Maybe instead of calling yourself a terrorist, say something like 'Yarrr!' Show us your war face?

And... cute sebiestor squeaking "Fear the tribes!" That gonna be so funny!


*in a squeaky voice* Fear the tribes! (Something I can't recall ever yelling in combat honestly. I show up for a reason, I don't think I need to point it out)

I don't call myself a terrorist by the way, I really only shoot those who shoot back.

As a sign of thanks I won't make a joke about you calling me a "cute sebiestor." Thanks again!

Lol
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#264 - 2016-06-21 03:01:45 UTC
I only ever yell internally in combat and it's usually 'RAAAAWR!' or 'AHAHAHAHAHA!'. Actually no, 'AHAHAHAHAHA!' wasn't me. Or was it? My memories are hazy.

Cripes. Better check the logs again.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#265 - 2016-06-21 03:31:05 UTC
Yelling and such makes me lose my focus, don't even do that...
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#266 - 2016-06-21 04:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Deitra Vess wrote:
Yelling and such makes me lose my focus, don't even do that...


Yelling in local takes the time that is better spent warping in and locking targets. It also announces intention to everyone in local, remove all doubt. I do not do it.

I yell internally to embolden myself, usually pre-fight.

Wait, the 'AHAHAHAHA!' I keep hearing in my head happens during the fight.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#267 - 2016-06-21 12:18:52 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

I don't call myself a terrorist by the way, I really only shoot those who shoot back.

This is good, really good.

Though I don't understand the obsession of peoples with terrorism... on words and lack of terrorists on action. So many peoples are emphasizing terrorism, like it is something important. But where are real terrorists? Have you seen any lately around?

What is even worse, some rotten-brained idiots even was barking that I was either a terrorist or was 'supporting' terrorism, after I clearly said myself that tactics of terrorism is inefficient, I'd never support such amateur way of warfare. I guess failure to read is a common symptom of spreading capsuleer dementia.

But in any way, I am glad you are not one of them. We have had enough Naupliuses, Noirs and iyammarroks.

Though I still wonder, why would you ask that then?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#268 - 2016-06-21 13:08:45 UTC
Honestly, I kinda assumed it would be implied by my question that that was what I was referring to myself as such. Has it happened? It certainly has, though I'm not proud of it. At the same time I think you'll agree following orders is important and you don't always know every detail in a combat situation. (Majority of the times it happened was home defense fleets with CO2 way back and raids on provide later. My own fleets and the majority of my time flying in combat it's been an unspoken rule not to.)
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#269 - 2016-06-21 14:46:44 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:


We have a claer case of SCOPE reporting one thing on one day (no evidence of Serpentis Capitals-despite evidence here on IGS to the contrary) and then reporting the destruction of a Serpentis/Cartel shipyard the next. Who exactly is twisting reality here?


No, we simply have a clear case of you lacking literacy.
The Scope report was about no hard evidence of super capitals. Not regular capitals.
Also a clear lack of you lacking understanding about stock images and believing the scope was along on a secret attack.

So yeah, come back when you actually have some real evidence to complain about. Much as this entire topic being discussed here is simply a Kimmy joke.



Serpentis and the Cartel have been able to produce both Capital and Super Capital ships, despite the Scope reporting otherwise. If you have any doubts, I can arrange for you to meet one.

I'm curious though as to why this discussion has put so much sand in your shorts. You clearly miss the entire point. I am merely pointing out that while people like you cry about Nouvelle Rouvenoror or Caldari Prime, you're quick to turn a blind eye when CONCORD or your governments engage in the same actions against civilian populations in NullSec.

But you're right, there is no sense in bringing this up here. Deeds, not words. Keep an eye to the sky. We'll formulate a proper response in due time.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#270 - 2016-06-21 15:54:53 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Kim, how do you say freedom fighter in Napaani? I want to know how to clearly identify myself if we end up on your side of the cluster. No this is not a troll and yes I'd like to know how to say terrorist too if possible. Thanks!

Like she would let us foul her beloved language by putting it in our mouth.....

Well Osynhaan, if she didn't then how am I supposed to clearly describe my intentions to her sulo or whatever it is.

If she misunderstood what you ment by declare your intentions then she might still shoot you
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#271 - 2016-06-21 15:58:23 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
In Caldari State same sex marriages are neither acknowledged nor legal.

We aren't savages like gallentes to allow such deviation and unnatural perversion.

Kyfigatkla hatsk blovitt.


I could not have said it better.

What does that mean
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#272 - 2016-06-21 16:00:38 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Kim, how do you say freedom fighter in Napaani? I want to know how to clearly identify myself if we end up on your side of the cluster. No this is not a troll and yes I'd like to know how to say terrorist too if possible. Thanks!

Sure, if you'd like to have rotten tomatoes tossed to your face.
"Freedom fighter" in Napanii is "Vaajpa Sentokan"

As for terrorist, I am not sure it would provoke any form of reaction, terrorists are just terrorists. Well, maybe we would laugh at you a bit, since you don't look very scary. Maybe instead of calling yourself a terrorist, say something like 'Yarrr!' Show us your war face?

And... cute sebistor squeaking "Fear the tribes!" That gonna be so funny!

You realize that a sebistor can make a point defense system and prevent your main weapon from dealing damage
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#273 - 2016-06-21 16:01:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Kim, how do you say freedom fighter in Napaani? I want to know how to clearly identify myself if we end up on your side of the cluster. No this is not a troll and yes I'd like to know how to say terrorist too if possible. Thanks!

Like she would let us foul her beloved language by putting it in our mouth.....

Well Osynhaan, if she didn't then how am I supposed to clearly describe my intentions to her sulo or whatever it is.

If she misunderstood what you ment by declare your intentions then she might still shoot you

Well, I think I'm on that special list that gets a light missile salute like most people who post here, let's just call it a formality on my part....

Added:

Defender missiles aren't worth the wasted utility slot on any load out. A neut on the other hand.....
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#274 - 2016-06-22 13:19:05 UTC
I am really tired from replying to trolling, and I suggest everyone to review the topic and return to the subject.

The main idea was that Nouvelle Rouvenor is an invasion attempt on Caldari Prime. It wasn't invasion in the military sense, but the situation was fixed by military methods.

Of course it is only a hypothesis, because nobody who lived back then can't tell us anymore what happened back then. We can only analyze gallentean behavior and build parallels to what they are doing now. We can also take a look at those who took responsibility for this operation (and though we can't confirm that Dragonaurs did it, we can believe them, that they did it, because if they are honorable, they wouldn't lie), and make a conclusion that it was a culture warfare.

Now, two hundred years later, gallenteans have attacked us again. And while we have to defend ourselves and fight for our own sovereignty and our colonists to protect them from gallentean atrocities, we shall also use military approach against gallente cultural invasion as well. It is our duty to prevent forming of new 'Nouvelle Rouvenor's and 'Port Roulette's, and shall we find them existing, they must be dismantled. Just like all the remaining gallente settlements on Caldari Prime.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#275 - 2016-06-22 14:53:07 UTC
1) if you're tired of responding to trolls: Don't.

2) I'm actually growing weary of listening to you paint my people as the devil incarnate.

3) a discussion on this matter with you is going to be fruitless for the simple fact that no matter what you won't be able to accept any views that contradict you own.

4) please review point 3 for an explanation of why so many people troll your threads.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#276 - 2016-06-22 15:28:06 UTC
To be fair I only intend to when my people are brought up, I think half (or atleast a notable amount of times) my views are just seen that way even though I'm merely playing devil's advocate.

Then again this statement will probably be viewed as a troll..... Doncha just love catch 22s?
Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#277 - 2016-06-22 19:27:21 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
To be fair I only intend to when my people are brought up, I think half (or atleast a notable amount of times) my views are just seen that way even though I'm merely playing devil's advocate.

Then again this statement will probably be viewed as a troll..... Doncha just love catch 22s?


I've never quite understood why Kim hates the Minmatar & is so rude about us. I mean the Republic is an ally of the Federation but that's more a matter of political convenience and having something to persuade the Empire not to roll right over us.

I certainly don't need to hate someone to fight them. I just have to believe that the fight is worth it.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.

Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#278 - 2016-06-22 19:37:16 UTC
Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
To be fair I only intend to when my people are brought up, I think half (or atleast a notable amount of times) my views are just seen that way even though I'm merely playing devil's advocate.

Then again this statement will probably be viewed as a troll..... Doncha just love catch 22s?


I've never quite understood why Kim hates the Minmatar & is so rude about us. I mean the Republic is an ally of the Federation but that's more a matter of political convenience and having something to persuade the Empire not to roll right over us.

I certainly don't need to hate someone to fight them. I just have to believe that the fight is worth it.

And in my case while I'm Gallente I have since renounced my loyalty to the Federation the day I joined the Horde but I still don't want genocide of anyone.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#279 - 2016-06-22 20:25:22 UTC
Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
To be fair I only intend to when my people are brought up, I think half (or atleast a notable amount of times) my views are just seen that way even though I'm merely playing devil's advocate.

Then again this statement will probably be viewed as a troll..... Doncha just love catch 22s?


I've never quite understood why Kim hates the Minmatar & is so rude about us. I mean the Republic is an ally of the Federation but that's more a matter of political convenience and having something to persuade the Empire not to roll right over us.

I certainly don't need to hate someone to fight them. I just have to believe that the fight is worth it.

I fully agree with ya, aside from helping allies (who mind you are more than capable of dealing with their own problems themself), what's the point of fighting the state? After the warzone was under control I very easily could have redeployed there to gain some extra isk but in the end aside from that there was nothing really to drive me to fight them. Unless Kim really feels their allies are inadequate, which obviously they're not, what's the point?
James Syagrius
Reclamation
#280 - 2016-06-22 21:25:25 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
James Syagrius wrote:
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
In Caldari State same sex marriages are neither acknowledged nor legal.

We aren't savages like gallentes to allow such deviation and unnatural perversion.

Kyfigatkla hatsk blovitt.


I could not have said it better.

I know it may surprise some but I am something of an amateur archaeologist, and thus am often interested in the esoteric.

So when I heard Mr. Ramal’s reply to Miss. Kim at first I simply chuckled and moved right along.

But the rhythmical nature of the statement especially considering the context prompted me to deeper reflection.

It took a bit, but after considerable trouble, and one or two altercations…. I was actually able to have a rather disagreeable panel of experts agree on a translation for Mr. Ramal’s statement.

So, forgive if I ‘rephrase’ the translation to make it more palatable to the more genteel patrons of the Summit.

Ky’figat’kla… I hope I pronounced that correctly, ‘refers to a morally reprehensible person who ‘has’ to seek amatory companionship outside of their species.’

The’mhat’sk or perhaps Them’hat’sk… but forgive me there were knives out by this point and I didn’t think pressing those involved wise… but, ‘refers to a bitter, unlikable person who hates other peoples happiness.’

Pitia’bleblo’vitt… seems to be best… although there is some disagreement, translated, ‘one who speaks nonsense.’ But I am told the inflection used indicates that said nonsensical expressions are due to flaw in personality not a mental affliction.

Have you ever done something you knew you would later regret? Well this is one of those times.