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Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#221 - 2012-01-05 20:48:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ynot Eyob
ale rico wrote:
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9126

just one of the many times OF and ynot have gcc'ed on COA. They even dropped 3 carriers that day.


Or was it COA going GCC on OF?!?

Was it a COA Maelstrom engaging conrad on station, just to bring a carrier our to rep him up.

Now would we would bring carriers to support our own, ofcause we just had to go run a few jump to pick them up first.. We failed that night though no doubt, but we didnt go GCC, COA did.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
ale rico
Slow Chidlren at Play
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#222 - 2012-01-05 20:58:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ale rico
Ynot Eyob wrote:
ale rico wrote:
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9126

just one of the many times OF and ynot have gcc'ed on COA. They even dropped 3 carriers that day.


Or was it COA going GCC on OF?!?

Was it a COA Maelstrom engaging conrad on station, just to bring a carrier our to rep him up.

Now would we would bring carriers to support our own, ofcause we just had to go run a few jump to pick them up first.. We failed that night though no doubt, but we didnt go GCC, COA did.


You all went GCC on me. A rupture managed to escape, then you came again with a Dominix and the three carriers.

Edit: why would the sentries be firing at you I wonder?? http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9126
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#223 - 2012-01-05 21:31:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ynot Eyob
Malestrom went GCC on us at station.

Your Chimira undocked and repped up the maelstrom both going GCC

We came in late and opened fire just as you GCC disapeared

You undocked your own carrier to begin with, we desided to bring ours in, unfortunally cyno alt got black screen at undock so mission failed badly.

Your comment on kills doesnt add up egihter as i see no dominix lose, nore do i see your lose....

And as you see on the first kill you were GCC to begin with:

http://www.obsidianfront.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4068

So stop the nonsens. (Oh btw you forgot to post that API validated lose on your KB)

If you wana start posting kill who have sentries on and who havnt i can keep going

http://www.obsidianfront.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4737

Not to forget the ammount of ganked hulks and macks in high sec..

But i wont, makes no point. If your in a fight you pick the target making the biggest treath, regardless if you have to go GCC or not.

That said, you are as marked as we are to you while this is going on, so sentries or not your as valid target for us, as we are to you.

This is going to be my last comment on this tread as it leads nowere. Seems to me it all about pointing fingers stating you did wrong. I dont support COA the way its ran now, we did in the past. All this comes down to two episodes. First where we helpped some friends with RR in high sec against EM, not known who we were up against, and 2nd, an excuse that we helpped defend a "pirate" POS in low sec, though we funny enough lose a dread in the attemt to take it down.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
ale rico
Slow Chidlren at Play
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#224 - 2012-01-05 21:48:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ale rico
Thats cause the Domi didnt die, we deagressed and docked when the carriers showed up. If you had bothered to check the first link I posted you would have seen the drake loss was there.

As for the fight, I remember well, you came to Auner baiting us with a gang, you managed to get the drake to GCC you at first. Then one of yours went GCC in a rupture, and soon the rest followed, we fired back and killed 2 of you. You engaged at a station, undocking a carrier to rep 2 of us vs the 5 or 6 of you that were there is not such a bad idea.

I don't get the point of your second link, it just shows that you continue to bait COA members.

Edit: I'm not a diplomat so anything I say represents my opinion, and I only speak from my personal experiences against OF.
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#225 - 2012-01-05 21:53:45 UTC
Its not my fault you cant resist to engage.

EVE Uni never engage if you are sitting with them on a gate...

And you didnt see us engaging you on the gate, as "pirates" tend to do..

You have become your own enemy Big smile

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#226 - 2012-01-05 23:27:15 UTC
Delilah Wild wrote:
Titus, that is indeed an impressive number of non-combat kills you are racking up. But please, put your auto cannon back where it belongs.

Cheers


December 2011 Mining Barges/Exhumers Industrials Total Kills
Titus Veridius 24 2 169
Gunpoint Diplo 57 19 842
Firebolt145
The Hatchery
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#227 - 2012-01-06 00:08:55 UTC
Kmelx wrote:
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board.

Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!


Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.

Roll
Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#228 - 2012-01-06 00:10:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Titus Veridius
Don't troll me bro. The distinction between C.O.A and blues that they conduct anti-pie ops with in joint fleets is so insignificant to me that I can't describe it to you with the limited capabilities of human language and homo sapien vocal structure. Furthermore if raw stats and battle report links are e-peenery and smack by themselves, then....good.

Let me try again:

"THAR BE PIRATES IN DA MOLDEN HEATH, MUH MATEYS. YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings
#229 - 2012-01-06 00:56:14 UTC
If you wish to wave around such a small auto cannon, then be my guest.

Cheers.

Founder, Coalition of Anti-Pirates
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#230 - 2012-01-06 01:04:06 UTC
Firebolt145 wrote:

Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.

Roll

Not only that, but their killboard is terribly inaccurate. Checking my corp on their board vs ours, it seems they have nearly all our losses to them, but only around 30% of our kills against them. Roll

What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644
Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#231 - 2012-01-06 02:36:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Titus Veridius
Dirty Protagonist
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#232 - 2012-01-06 02:38:12 UTC
Kmelx wrote:
Titus Veridius wrote:
December 2011
http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11816603 (Last Combined COA operation I observed in Dec, MH)


Top link: From the COA kill board for the same engagement for the top one you linked showing COA losses and kills in that fight:

http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650

The majority of the people you killed on your board weren't in COA, nor were they in our fleet or on our coms, COA was not responsible for their fleet composition, or their tactical decision to warp their entire fleet to zero on your fleet, nor were we responsible for their fits or the fact that they pretty much all died. Their FC made a spur of the moment call and it was a bad one, their fleet paid the price for it.

You guys might have kicked their asses, but you inflicted minimal damage on the COA forces on the field and we inflicted heavy damage on your fleet, held the field and looted your wrecks.

http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board.

Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!



so you can just pick and choose what anti-pirate alliances and corps are included in operations? i, too, selectively choose to remove embarrassing lossmails from my killboa... OH WAIT no i don't

this isn't epeen. quit being a ******

buttes~
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#233 - 2012-01-06 05:12:14 UTC
OP success, Pirates have their knickers in a twist while us anti-pirates remain dignified and balanced in judgement.

:))))))))

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#234 - 2012-01-06 08:56:55 UTC
Titus Veridius wrote:
December 2011
Titus Veridius: 169 Ships killed (27.51B ISK) 17 Ships lost (1.61B ISK) 94.48% Efficiency (ISK)
Coalition of Anti-Pirates: 241 Ships killed (28.07B ISK) 119 Ships lost (12.53B ISK) 69.15% Efficiency (ISK)
Gunpoint Diplomacy: 842 Ships killed (92.94B ISK) 229 Ships lost (21.72B ISK) 81.06% Efficiency (ISK)

http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11816603 (Last Combined COA operation I observed in Dec, MH)
http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11875631 (Last BCA (COA? Affiliate?) roam I observed Dec, MH)
http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11838732 (The Last Ivy League Fleet Roam I observed in Dec, MH)

Quote:
As above, Gunpoint Diplomacy alliance lost vast numbers of pilots. Once 50 strong they now are about half the size. Some of them have even moved into Bosena solar system for more safety and closer high secure access to space. They will often run from our forces and then mock us when they bring equal forces or bigger ships and we move to the safety of high secure space. Security status hurts hurgh?

Mission 100% success.


http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k77/JohnGalt_/joke.jpg


It's easy to get kills and "good" efficiency when you sit your arse on a gate most of your time killing newbs. Any fail pilot can achieve that.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#235 - 2012-01-06 09:02:52 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
Firebolt145 wrote:

Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.

Roll

Not only that, but their killboard is terribly inaccurate. Checking my corp on their board vs ours, it seems they have nearly all our losses to them, but only around 30% of our kills against them. Roll


Funny that heh

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
Kmelx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#236 - 2012-01-06 11:12:32 UTC
Titus Veridius wrote:
Don't troll me bro. The distinction between C.O.A and blues that they conduct anti-pie ops with in joint fleets is so insignificant to me that I can't describe it to you with the limited capabilities of human language and homo sapien vocal structure.


From what I can recollect those guys had no standings with COA at all at the beginning of that op, they certainly weren't blue to me, I've already pointed out that it was anything but a joint op, if it was they would have been in our fleet and on our coms, the co-ordination between both fleets was minimal.

I note that you that you don't care so much that you felt the need to take the time to point out how little you care Smile

Quite apart from that, I wasn't describing the posts from your killboard or the posts from the COA board as smack, believe it or not I actually have a fair amount of respect for your corp and its combat abilities, I was pointing out that I was bored with KB related bullshit and wanted some more smack talk.

In reply to the comment about selectively picking and choosing embarrassing loss mails - lol - as far as I know the board updates automatically via API with the kills and losses of most of the COA member corps and alliances, if they aren't in COA then other peoples losses or their kills aren't on our board - there is no reason they should be on our board either, its not meant to be evekill or battleclinic, its meant to show the COA's combat kills and losses.
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#237 - 2012-01-06 11:31:54 UTC
Kmelx wrote:

In reply to the comment about selectively picking and choosing embarrassing loss mails - lol - as far as I know the board updates automatically via API with the kills and losses of most of the COA member corps and alliances, if they aren't in COA then other peoples losses or their kills aren't on our board - there is no reason they should be on our board either, its not meant to be evekill or battleclinic, its meant to show the COA's combat kills and losses.

My corp on your killboard:

http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_ext_id=569751089&view=kills

Just 24 kills to 21 losses. A selection of COA members from our killboard:

http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=58 Electus Matari, 65 losses
http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=161 Namtz, 34 losses
http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=400 HELM, 14 losses

And it's not like you can say you are just using recent ones, because there are EM losses to us from 2008 in there.

What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644
Wensley
Matari Exodus
#238 - 2012-01-06 11:35:15 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Losers whine about blobbing, winners go home and blob the prom queen.



Yes, I'm late to the party.
Wensley
Matari Exodus
#239 - 2012-01-06 11:49:07 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
OP success, Pirates have their knickers in a twist while us anti-pirates remain dignified and balanced in judgement.

:))))))))


Oh, wait, I've just realised that I'm supposed to be an anti-pirate now...

Molden Heath pirates are terrible. We are better than them. LOLOLOLOL!11!!!!111!!!!
Kmelx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#240 - 2012-01-06 12:21:48 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
Kmelx wrote:

In reply to the comment about selectively picking and choosing embarrassing loss mails - lol - as far as I know the board updates automatically via API with the kills and losses of most of the COA member corps and alliances, if they aren't in COA then other peoples losses or their kills aren't on our board - there is no reason they should be on our board either, its not meant to be evekill or battleclinic, its meant to show the COA's combat kills and losses.


My corp on your killboard:

http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_ext_id=569751089&view=kills

Just 24 kills to 21 losses. A selection of COA members from our killboard:

http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=58 Electus Matari, 65 losses
http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=161 Namtz, 34 losses
http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=400 HELM, 14 losses

And it's not like you can say you are just using recent ones, because there are EM losses to us from 2008 in there.


All of your KB links are broken for me but in reply I'd say this:

As I understand it EM operate their own custom private kill board. They exercise their own judgement about whether or not they post on the COA KB or not or whether their kills go public generally, they are why I said that most of the COA members and alliances kills and losses are updated automatically via API, there is no way for anyone other than EM to verify any claims about EMs kills and losses.

I don't spend all of my time keeping tabs on COA member corps and alliances nor do I have any information about when they joined and I am not part of COA's leadership, but I don't believe that Namtz or Helm are long standing members of COA (I could be wrong). If that's the case their kills and losses to you from the point prior to the date that they joined COA would not be shown upon the COA board, because they would not have been members at that time, it's probably the reason that your board and ours disagree about the numbers of kills and losses.

Less about killboards please, this thread was more fun without it.