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So post and topic removed, as well as Charity Citadel corp closed. Nothing has yet been announced from Chribba...

Project closed? Not sure if fishy or not. I thought the initial idea was quite cool, even if it would inflate the PLEX price.

Anyway, if you used the setup to get investors and now run with the money, you should just be banned for scamming using the PLEX 4 GOOD.

Looking forward to see where this is going.

Thanks, Tipa; I didn't read the Reddit post correctly. My apologies for unwittingly misleading folks.

I agree, it is not the "Profits that go to PLEX4GOOD" per sé that is the problem, it is the effective CCP endorsement of a player structure, and the permanence, along with the guilt tripping that is the problem.

Most of the critics have, in one form or another taken part in charitable stuff throughout Eve, so we are not objecting to that.

Yeah, I was indeed checking your twitter, but no announcements have been made on the topic on why the corp was closed and why this post was deleted.

While my initial post may have come across a bit provocative, it still had a genuine question on what the hell happened to the project. I think that is a valid question, given the closure of both the corp and this thread, with no response on your part what-so-ever. Given this projects scope and influence on both EvE and the real world, I hope you can see the interest and concern from people following the progress of the Charity Citadel.

I'm not sure it's a great thing to insult people, just because you didn't do a great PR work yourself. All this could have been avoided if you would have communicated properly on what is happening.

I have no doubt that you fervently, truly, zealously believe that you are saving Eve from the greater evil of a New Jita, as outlined in the nightmare scenario which inspired you to do the charity citadel. (So, please do not pretend it is charity which is driving you, it is the fear on a blog of some big alliance running a New Jita)

Dismissing anyone who has concerns about the project as false or unintelligent is, well, not very charitable.

You have not answered key questions, either here or on Reddit, your standard reply is "I am a good person, CCP will protect you all from scams, and anyone who doubts me is bad".

So, do you actually have answers to questions and concerns, or are you planning on just batting them around and hoping no one reads them?

Just to confirm that I've been asked to hold the CEO position of the Citadel owning corporation to ensure that the ISK goes to the right places and that suddenly docking rights etc change without prior notice.

Sorry for the delay, I'm on vacation atm

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I am sure that kind of arrogance will get the MD very friendly..

Good luck with your borderline scammy project. The fact that you got Chribba on as a standard 3rd party service means very little to people in here..

Your not just handing over a Capital ship, or securing collateral.. Your using the Chribba name, and charity to paint a BIG "Red Cross" on an admitted future War Funding Machine!

and CCP will never guarantee anti-scamming, especially not from a potentially not really neutral body.

Your attempt to monopolize the Citadel Market Hub Wars, via goodwill, charity and the Chribba brand is not working on me, I find it offensive against anything that is financial PVP.

The OP's replies show an unhealthy amount of arrogance for the to-be market and charity leader of New Eden.

Being dealt with in other thread.

Will you actually answer my questions on reddit then, as you are avoiding them here.

Also, while you have obviously surveyed eve players, did you ask them for their views on Reddit as a platform for intelligent discourse about Eve.


In case it is difficult to find my questions on reddit, which I assume it must be, as the fact is that you have answered 0 of them, here they are again in short bullet form:

1: When you talk about funding charitable wars, who is the "You" who you will listen to? Will it be whoever has funded you the most that month? If someone pays you 100b in broker fees per month, and asks that you do a charity invasion of an area, would you do it?

2: If the owner of the perimeter citadel changed the name to "All profits to PLEX4GOOD" would you throw your support behind them? If not, why not? If GSF opened a charity citadel, would you also throw your support behind that?

3: Have you had anything close to confirmation from CCP about their endorsement?

4: Will your hub be close enough to 4-4 to allow for offshoring

5: Assume you take over the New Eden economy (as stated in the opening section of your post), how will players who do not wish to pay their broker fees to charity be able to get a refund, will they be able to pay 0% fees, as, if you become the "New Jita" (copyright Gevlon 2016), players will have no choice but to use your citadel.

6: Have you dropped your original idea to fund "neutral service corps", and if not, how are you defining these?

7: You namedrop a lot of charities (although, B4R is not an ingame charity), do you have statements from the people who run these charities.

8: Can I as a trader choose which charities my ISK goes to?


EDIT: One final question, you have followed the rules for P4G by doing this? "In order to register your intent to host a fund raising drive, you must create a thread on the In game events and gatherings forum, prefixed with the tag "PLEX for GOOD" in the subject, detailing the charity drive, and file a Support Ticket under the Community category for approval. The event may only go ahead once approval has been given by the Community Team."

https://web.archive.org/web/20160222095836/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD