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How to fix the skillpoint inflation problem: Dailies and podding
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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-05-27 07:09:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
There are so few true -10ers in the world (http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves.

Kill every t3 you find.

When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V.

If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable.

If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Narrisse Chelien
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-27 07:19:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Narrisse Chelien
Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system.

You chose to be an outlaw, and you must accept the consequences of those actions just as the afk miner must accept being ganked and the auto piloting freighter pilot carrying billions with no tank must accept responsibility for their actions. Why are you asking CCP to cater to your play style? A day one noob can pop a rat, you can pop a rat in low sec.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-05-27 07:23:03 UTC
Narrisse Chelien wrote:
Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system.

You chose to be an outlaw, and you must accept the consequences of those actions just as the afk miner must accept being ganked and the auto piloting freighter pilot carrying billions with no tank must accept responsibility for their actions. Why are you asking CCP to cater to your play style? A day one noob can pop a rat, you can pop a rat in low sec.


Train reading comprehension to at least II please. Too eager for ganker tears that you came in guns blazing and made a fool of yourself.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
#4 - 2016-05-27 07:28:54 UTC
I support this product/service.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-05-27 07:44:29 UTC
I support this product and/or service.



And in no way because I'd simply be selling more T3s, nosirreebob. Way honest.
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-27 08:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Coralas
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
There are so few true -10ers in the world (http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves.



Most of us do not believe that skillpoint accessibility is a problem. Inherently the skill injector system removes skillpoints from the system whenever an injector is used on a pilot with more than the very low 5m or so SP, and it also takes a considerable amount of SP out of the active system and leaves it buffered on the market.

Furthermore, most subs in practice are less than 1 year long, and extra skill points being accessible to players on a typical sub allows players to partake in more activities, which is likely to prolong their subs, which is the only truly good thing for the game, and in a value sense, the SP being generated by the dailies is probably only really useful to younger subs.

Quote:


Kill every t3 you find.



This would appear to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Quote:


When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V.

If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable.

If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.


There is no logical connection between destroying SP and complaining about increased SP generation. However I have heard that chewbacca lives on endor.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-05-27 08:16:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
CCP giving 10k sp daily only for destroying player ships would have been awesome. Even a 1 day nub can duel in a noobship to get the sp. Pirate

However, that would result in exploits.

Other than that theres no sp inflation, the extractor injector business actually removes sp from the game. Also, who the hell flies t3s with skills at level 1. Not sure you can even fit them or they have any advantage over flying a t1 cruiser.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-27 08:25:22 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
(http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) .


yay rank 887 im gonna celebrate by getting drunk and welping a t3 Lol

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
#9 - 2016-05-27 08:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron Honk
Cristl
#10 - 2016-05-27 09:50:12 UTC
We should be able to hand in tags on behalf of other players to raise their sec status.

"Mr Concord agent, I have it on good authority that Ms Dira is a fine, upstanding citizen. Here are some tags to vouchsafe it"

:true evil:

Hey, this needs to happen.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-05-27 09:53:29 UTC
Aaron Honk wrote:
Killing a rat is not engaging in any way

Actually it is Lol I've spent quite some time yesterday searching for rat to kill around JIta Shocked Visited like 5 systems to only find empty belts....
Such content Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-05-27 09:57:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
Cristl wrote:
We should be able to hand in tags on behalf of other players to raise their sec status.

"Mr Concord agent, I have it on good authority that Ms Dira is a fine, upstanding citizen. Here are some tags to vouchsafe it"

:true evil:

Hey, this needs to happen.





That's an awesome trolling idea. They'll go to sleep pirates and wake up bears. Bear

Can you imagine the horror?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-05-27 10:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
Gimme Sake wrote:
CCP giving 10k sp daily only for destroying player ships would have been awesome. Even a 1 day nub can duel in a noobship to get the sp. Pirate

However, that would result in exploits.

Other than that theres no sp inflation, the extractor injector business actually removes sp from the game. Also, who the hell flies t3s with skills at level 1. Not sure you can even fit them or they have any advantage over flying a t1 cruiser.


Mate, you have no idea.

I've seen it happen, I've seen t3's with civilian mods. Carebears will do the silliest things.

E: THE HORROR!!!!

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-05-27 11:06:02 UTC
Just admit it Tisi; you'd have nightmares about waking up with sec status 5.0 each night. Which, of course, would lead to insomnia and sleepless hours of prayer for peace of mind under James 315 poster.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#15 - 2016-05-27 11:08:08 UTC
I support this product and / or service.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Erebus Vain
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-05-27 11:18:27 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Aaron Honk wrote:
Killing a rat is not engaging in any way

Actually it is Lol I've spent quite some time yesterday searching for rat to kill around JIta Shocked Visited like 5 systems to only find empty belts....
Such content Lol


I love your enthusiasm, no matter if it stinks of sarcasm :P
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#17 - 2016-05-27 11:38:32 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
There are so few true -10ers in the world (http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves.

Kill every t3 you find.

When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V.

If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable.

If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.


You sound all worked up about this dailies business...
...you should try mining it does wonders for nerves,just be prepare to fend against skill point rats...dem be nasty.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Adrian Maifeld
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-05-27 11:42:48 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
[...] it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day.[...]

Real pity.

Tisiphone Dira wrote:
If you don't hunt rats ([...]) then you have no right to complain.

Corrected this for you.
Memphis Baas
#19 - 2016-05-27 11:49:49 UTC
Go ahead and kill your T3 quota so you retain your "right to complain", but FFS complain somewhere else.
Davian Thule Pirkibo
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#20 - 2016-05-27 12:25:35 UTC
There is no damage being done agent, and you are suggesting the pursuit of those whom may be followers of the code.
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