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In W-Space only 24 hours to shell?
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Mork Borlog
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-05-24 10:33:19 UTC
In W-Space only 24 hours to shell?

I find it too hard for W-Space residents with the reinforcement of armor to cover. Is all this but pretty wicked enough going verlohren. What is not the case in hisec. Must it be really 24 hours? Do not go at least 3 days?

but we have a much greater risk alone already by the loss of objects!
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-24 10:38:20 UTC
If you're talking about citadels, it takes 48 hours to kill one at the very minimum. There are 2 reinforce timers.

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Mork Borlog
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-05-24 10:43:36 UTC
jo 2x 24h. But in HS 1x 24 and then 6 Days.

This is unfair!
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-05-24 10:53:35 UTC
Mork Borlog wrote:
jo 2x 24h. But in HS 1x 24 and then 6 Days.

This is unfair!

It's more time than you get with a current POS of 1 day 16 hours

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Mork Borlog
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-05-24 10:57:26 UTC
yes but a Pos have Autoshot... and why than HighSec 6 Days?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-24 11:40:05 UTC
What do you mean highsec has 6 days?

And you don't need autoshot if they can only shoot your citadel when you set it.

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ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#7 - 2016-05-24 11:50:43 UTC
WH space explicitly asked for WH citadels to be kill-able in less than a week. Since evictions very frequently require hole control to ensure your target doesn't bring in friends to save them you need to lock down their system for 48 hours.

When they announced citadels, and the hull RF timer being 6 days WH space panicked, while possible, I dont think any group would disagree that needing to keep hole control for an entire week is a bar that is just too high. Evictions would almost never happen as the effort bar is drastically above the reward ( in most cases)

So, in addition to no asset safety, WH citadel's hull timer is only 24 hours.

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Mork Borlog
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-05-24 12:00:53 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
WH space explicitly asked for WH citadels to be kill-able in less than a week. Since evictions very frequently require hole control to ensure your target doesn't bring in friends to save them you need to lock down their system for 48 hours.

When they announced citadels, and the hull RF timer being 6 days WH space panicked, while possible, I dont think any group would disagree that needing to keep hole control for an entire week is a bar that is just too high. Evictions would almost never happen as the effort bar is drastically above the reward ( in most cases)

So, in addition to no asset safety, WH citadel's hull timer is only 24 hours.


Find it just simply unfair that is 6 days of protection in hisec and WH only 24 hours! But ok Auto shot is at a Cita might really not necessary, because it is not so vulnerable!
O'nira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-05-24 12:03:05 UTC
are you seriously whining about this ****, wh space has never been safer than right now.


if you really want you can have 3 citadels so attackers will need a week to flush you out, you can also have poses that are offline until you need them and then you have even more time.


if citadels sucks so much then just go back to using poses, not like they lost any functionality with citadel patch
Phteven Hackett
NOMADS.
#10 - 2016-05-24 12:43:37 UTC
Mork Borlog wrote:
yes but a Pos have Autoshot... and why than HighSec 6 Days?

In highsec the attacker can bring in reinforcements through static gates.
In highsec the attacker can bring in additional doctrines and backup ships.
In highsec the attacker can bring their pilot back nearly instantly should they get podded.


Will your next topic be that it is unfair that we can't have medical clones in W-space?
Or that there are mass and time limitations on wormholes?
Or the lack og Concord in W-space?

Yes, sure.. It is unfair that W-space don't have the same security of highsec.. but to be completely honest. If you want the security of highsec.. Move to highsec..
Don't expect highsec security and W-space advantages..

You can't have your cake and eat it..
Mork Borlog
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-05-24 12:50:03 UTC
Phteven Hackett wrote:
Mork Borlog wrote:
yes but a Pos have Autoshot... and why than HighSec 6 Days?

In highsec the attacker can bring in reinforcements through static gates.
In highsec the attacker can bring in additional doctrines and backup ships.
In highsec the attacker can bring their pilot back nearly instantly should they get podded.


Will your next topic be that it is unfair that we can't have medical clones in W-space?
Or that there are mass and time limitations on wormholes?
Or the lack og Concord in W-space?

Yes, sure.. It is unfair that W-space don't have the same security of highsec.. but to be completely honest. If you want the security of highsec.. Move to highsec..
Don't expect highsec security and W-space advantages..

You can't have your cake and eat it..


ok you have right! Ugh
Phteven Hackett
NOMADS.
#12 - 2016-05-24 12:52:10 UTC
You can't possible mean........ wait... what?

Didn't see that coming from a topic on the Eve-O forums Shocked

welp, glad I could erhm.. help? Lol