Ships & Modules

And if you dont meet a carrier but are prepared for one youll ecm other stuff. Hence it making ecm more popular, which is a horrible idea. They are to strong - then end. The subcap blapping potential is just to high.

bet a falcon could tackle a carrier

what ratting carrier fits an nsa?

yeah im looking at that killboard of a lost thanatos which was tackled by an onyx and killed by a few sleips...what was the problem again?

What ship your cyno char use?
Interceptor, stealth bomber, recon or a T3 cruiser?
It is very hard to alpha a tanked recon or T3 cruiser, if you use a falcon you can also jam fighters.

No.

If you make Carriers fil an anti-capital role, then they directly compete with Dreadnoughts for it, and this will have exactly ONE consequence: Either carriers, or Dreadnoughts are worthless pieces of **** because the other outperforms them.
As such, Carriers need a different role within the whole capital class. Taken are: Anti Capital DPS, Logistics. Open are: Anti-Subcapital DPS / Anti Support.

As such, it's role is: Anti Support. Blap **** that is NOT a capital. In order to do so, it needs mobile fighters that actually have some punch and needs to be able to chase down other fighters and subcaps with those fighters, and lock them up quickly cause fighters are very, very small signature wise. If fighters were bigger, they'd be completely broken and worthless.

So the things you COULD change on a Carrier is the volley the light fighter's missile ability has, and in return, reduce it's cooldown and reload time and increase it's charge count. It was on Sisi like this, and it was changed to live values for one reason:

So once they done launching their 24 volleys, their fighters are rather low on dps, not very dangerous and would have to get recalled to become dangerous again - which will take flight time plus ~1 minute for the reload.

There is ways to counterplay fighters on grid, especially if it's only 1 or a small number of carriers. If it's more of them, you're probably in some tanky **** anyways.



Here's a quick rundown of the things you have to do:

Be aware where the fighters are and evade them. You can do this by warping. Minimum warp activation distance is 150km, minimum warp distance 50km. It breaks locks and brings you away, and with a good interceptor pilot in your fleet / gang, you can easily pounce around on grid.

Sensordamps on the Carrier, so it doesn't instalock you (but rather takes half a minute or more): This gets amplified very well if combined with warping!

Blap the fighters, THEN the carrier. RLML excell at this, and can be fielded from very cheap, easily accessible hulls, but also those that very much fancy the nano-faggottry, like Orthrus, NOsprey, Gila, Cerberus, Rapier.
If you defang the carrier, it's a sitting duck waiting for it's end.



To visualize it again: A Carrier is very dangerous, but so are many ships in many situations. The carrier is only dangerous to you if it has it's fighters right on top of you. If it doesn't, it's absolutely harmless.
It's like, say, a Vindicator: If you're in webrange, you're ******. (Almost) everyone knows this. The obvious solution is: stay away from it's webrange. This translates directly onto carriers: Stay away from it's fighters, unless you can tank them. If you don't understand this very basic prinicple, then it's time to biomass.

This is job of the redeemer!

carrier not op at all!

gate camp with a carrier got reckt --> check this out fam --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnAF3NQ4WIM

oh.... then just died like little noobs

death to frigate's menace! BS master race

You really think your 20k isk t1 frig should survive against a 2.5 bil isk capital ship? They are right where they should be. Bring a dread or a fleet next time .