EVE General Discussion

You should not be AFK mining under any circumstance, ever ever ever. Simple as that. You can be paying less attention, sure. Like while you're mining talking in TS, reading something. But be at your PC and have your hand ready for response.

If you do not take precautions such as aligning to an escape route, mining with a procurer and good fit aswell as if you actually AFK mine you deserve to be suicide ganked.

EVE players belive that they are entitled 100% bulletproof safety in hi-sec and so that they can AFK mine whenever they see fit. This is not the case, this will not be the case.

I am a miner, I use a Procurer. I D-Scan, I don't go AFK, I align to an escape route and I have a tank fit.

And finally add CODE as Orange/Red contact, as soon as they enter your belt. Warp out immediatelly.

If you do anything in eve AFKing, then you should NEVER complain about dying. If im AFK, im in a safe place where i cant be shot or scanned usually a dock. Second, High sec mining is pointless. Its like working at walmart when you have a law degree. Mining in null sec will not only solve your ganking and extortion problems but you will make far better money.... but dont do it afk. Either play eve or do something else...not both at same time, at least not both at same time and then complain about it on forums.

Just fly a tanked procurer, tell others around you to fly a tanked procurer, then completely ignore anyone talking about code or the new order in local. They feed off of people reacting, so if you just don't react at all, they get all mad. Even if they bump, just set yourself to orbit something so your ship looks like it's trying to get back then go grab some lunch or something, by the time you get back the bumper has usually got bored of your lack of response.

Ed: Oh and all those people saying you should never be AFK, ignore them too. Mining is the perfect AFK activity, you can mine and play PS4 with ease, just clicking every now and then. Just fit to be AFK so it's difficult for them to disrupt you. Multibox AFK mine too if you can so you can multiply your profits.

Join Eve University and learn good safety practices for mining. Then you can teach others. There is no safe place to mine in this game.

This is great advice if your goal is to make your Eve career a short and miserable one. Lets break it down:

1) Don't join an actual player group. Stay in the NPC corp with all the bots and multi-tanking idiots asking how to finish a mining mission. Don't set yourself on a path that might lead to what the game is intended for... you know, interaction with other players.

2) Stay in the systems where literally nothing important ever happens. The ones where no one ever speaks in local, nobody ever has epic pvp, where no one with any ability at all would be caught dead.

3) Select the least productive mining ship possible and then, nerf the crap out of the productivity some more. This will insure that you will need to survive as long as possible because you sure aren't going to be getting much profit/hour. Yeah, you'll be safe. Killing you would be merciful and we don't mind if you suffer at your own hands.

Then you can go to Uedama and mock the CODE. Agents by posting your fit during the pauses between them linking their freighter kills. You can laugh and laugh and laugh....

When remarking about a subject it is more convincing when one has some actual experience. 0-6 lifetime doesn't cut it as an expert on the pvp lifestyle.

Perhaps your comments are meant to be ironic. In any case, I think everyone understands that a miner is probably unqualified to opine upon the relative leetness of different kinds of pilots who actually have shot someone. Since you know that CODE. post their killmails as a warning to non compliant miners I can only assume you have little understanding of the use of force in enforcing your will upon other entities. I am sure the submarine Captains of WWI and WWII would be quite humiliated by your disdain for warriors who destroyed ships that couldn't shoot back as this was, of course, their primary prey.

As I say, you have no understanding of the purpose of ganking, no actual experience at pvp and little cause to belittle superior players because you don't care for or are afraid of them. Forum pvp isn't the same as when I enter your system. Better dock up there.

Dat smacktalk yo.

Except Zkill reinforces everything Cranial said.

As for mining, there are basically three approaches (in highsec)

1. have enough friends on grid to scare off the gankers.
2. make enough profit and simply ignore it.
3. fit for tank, cutting into your own profits somewhat but without the hassle of getting another ship every once in a while.

either one of these works.

Shhhhh....don't tell them to stay in NPC corp. Then you cannot get wartarget Skiff kills... :)

It's pretty simple. They are either just plain trolls, or they don't have the balls for actual PVP in low/nullsec - so they gank easy, unsuspecting targets in highsec instead to try to compensate for it. Then they come up with silly excuses about how they're trying to counter some non-existent negative influence that miners and 'carebears' are having on the game in an attempt to screen it.

Thanks for posting those links. I'll never ask The Question again, although I'll be honest with you: I couldn't finish reading it. Really needs a bulletpointed summary.

I got as far as three pages of sperg, then my attention wandered. What I did read sounded like a load of baloney and excuses so it wasn't exactly the eye-opener I was hoping for.

Still, thanks for trying.