EVE General Discussion

Here's a quick solution. (one of many, but this one fits my play style)

Both of your accounts can be maxed out to provide you with 6 toons.

Your two mains need to sacrifice two months of training time each for it's two spares, training them strictly for P.I.

Even doing crappy P.I. in high sec with 4 alts will allow you to plex one of your two accounts.
Low sec P.I. will let you plex both.

Your Sacrifice:

- Burning 4 months of training cue per main. A one time event
- 1 hour per week of click fest P.i. This includes hauling. ( On 8 day+6 hour extractor timers)

Your Reward:

- Never pay CCP again for your two subs.


Honestly, if you call that a grind then you should hush and pay the coin for the entertainment you are receiving.
If the extra 15 pounds is a hardship, then you need to make the choice to earn an extra 15 by mowing laws, ect.
OR : 1 hour per week click fest that will SAVE you 15 pounds for other game subscriptions or a few pints at the pub.

its all choices.


I disagree that one needs two accounts to "Win" at EvE. However, your fun triples if you have 2.

I've heard that the only way to "Win" at EvE is to have zero accounts, but i think that was just the salt talking.

Regards,

Dan

Skill injectors can solve this in EVE. There is no other game that you can "buy" your way in as easily. Also skills train while you not playing while in other MMO's if you not grinding you not growing.

There is also no reason why you cant go to null on day one.
If you join a decent helpful corp and engage with them you should be growing, learning and making is very early on.
Its a MMO, play it like it is supposed to be played, with people.
If you need some help/tips, mail me in game. Always happy to help new players and old alike

I am wearing an EVE T-shirt custom made for me in public areas, so I hope I am contributing somehow to EVE. If not...well it's still cool.

I do wish the money spent of WoD and dust was spent on advertisement for Eve, I think it would have been money better spent on their core game.

I want 100k concurrent unique players.

I have been playing since 2008 and i remember back in 2009-2010 players saying "there was 23k people on today and thats the most there ever has been" . Last i saw, Eve went from around 50k subs when it first started to over 500k . It has went up almost every single year except when they brought out those crappy sov mechanics that replaced POS bashing. It actually drops for a couple of years then if i recall from the graph. Another trend i have noticed is when i first started playing, it was common to have players that played for 4-8 hours a day every single day. If you told an alliance then you play 10-15 hours a week, they were like yeah you arent active enough. That has shifted to the average player playing 10-20 hours in a week a couple of hours at a time many days.

Cost wise...

-Eve cost $15 an month if this causes you hardship you should seriously rethink your priorities.
- You get access to all content for $15. No content is off limit like so called "free games" Everyone is on the same playing field, rich people ( or those that spend money stupidly) do not have an advantage. For comparison to "cheaper subs" you have:
1) The best customer support of any game ive ever played( and ive been playing online games for 20 years) and in many cases best of companies in general. Wont find this in cheaper games and its non existent in free games.
2) Constant patches and fixes. Far more than you will find in most games.
3) Free xpacks. Many games make you pay for the xpacks.
4) CCP uses cutting edge technology in their game to the point of developing or having it developed for them exclusively. They use modern servers. Your not playing on some broken down server from 2004. Its the alienware of servers.
5) CCP puts a majority of their revenue back into the game in R&D, features, and operations. Id rather them spend my money to make my game better rather than spend it on advertising to get a few hundred more players. Other games spend a majority of their money on profits and advertising. Very little actually goes back into the game. So updates to their games are put together very sloppy and often unbalanced and are rarely fixed. Other devs make xpacks to generate more revenue, CCP makes xpacks to generate more content which leads to #6.
6) CCP cares what its players want. It constantly engages players and consults players on ideas, what features they want to see and which they dont. Eve content is truly player driven in all forms.
-If the price was lowered or free, i would have to play with a bunch of immature children. I dont want to be in fleet with 10 year olds who think they are god because they got a shiny new ship. If i wanted to play with children, i would get on facebook games.
- CCP caters to a very niche market. They arent trying to be the WOW of space. They arent trying to be like anyone. They are looking for a certain type of player that likes hardcore games that require ingenuity and creativeness to use a toolset in an almost completely player controlled environment.
- Eve's player base is very loyal. They might complain, but no more than players from other games. Eve is a game many players take a break from for a few months or a year and the come back for a while and then another break. I cant say the same for the other games ive played. Once you decide to quit those games, you have a very low chance of returning to them.

- And the big one. It is not only possible to play eve for free but its quite easy. If im trying, i can make enough for a plex( at 1 bil isk) in about 12-15 hours of gameplay.

And consider what that customer support must deal with. This game allows piracy, ganking, fraud, awoxing (It used to, look up safaris), in addition to high levels of PvP, and the real world value of some assets are so high that I imagine for every 100 carrier kills, there is at least 1 player who petitions incessantly to get their assets reinstated. If you blow up a ship, its gone, period. I cannot even imagine what it must be like to be in the customer service department which has to (chooses to, in a way) deal with all of those issues on top of normal gameplay issues, and even with all of this difficulty, they are still some of the most professional, courteous, and prompt customer service people I have ever interacted with.

There was something I was taught back when I worked in retail, and that was, if a customer had a great experience, they might tell 3 people, but if they had a bad experience, they would tell 11. Bad customer service stories exist, just like they do for any company, but all things considered, these guys more than earn the price of a subscription for the service they provide on that end.

Just another 2 cents for the pile.

can i haz your stuff? you are quitting right?

why? dont you have your own assets?

As bad as the original post is, I must say that I agree with the basic premise. CCP has failed to properly advertise EVE. What's my litmus test? No one has ever heard of it.

I'm constantly trying to recruit people from RL into EVE, and I notice that, for some reason, no one I talk to has ever heard of the best MMO on the market.

If ur gonna quit, can i have ur stuffz? ktnxbye