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Npc null vs claimed

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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-05-11 06:31:46 UTC
So Ive heard a few ppl that i know, that also are secretive on where they do things, that they make significant ISK seeding various stations in null space. I have a bunch of cyno alts and a jf char so in theory I also could attempt it. I am good at using the jf so i know how not get it blown up lol, i did a lot of transporting for my old guild, they bought me it and let me keep it when the guild broke up.

Now since im alone i am clueless how to proceed, as im guildless i dont have null areas i can seed so what would be the best way to proceed, would it be best for me to try npc stations in npc space like wildlands geminate, stain etc. Or should i look to provi for instance.

Any tips would be welcomed....i ofc will do a lot more research and not take everything said as gospil.... it is eve afterall..gotta be skeptical of everything.

But i would like some ideas on how to start picking a location.

Thanks in advance.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-11 06:40:28 UTC
I'll tell you my hard earnt and currently unused (time constraints) null sec market research and info for a fee.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-05-11 06:44:27 UTC
Sure thing....half of what i earn in the month after you give me the tips....trust me Big smile
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#4 - 2016-05-11 07:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
Check dotlan map. If you see null with a lot of NPC kills - good place to buy dead space modules. If you see high amount of jumps - good place to sell whatever you can sell there. Providence is very active region, for example. You can even dock in their stations, from what I have heard.
That page is not accurate, but can give you overall overview of active null sec markets.
Be very cautious speaking with anyone from CODE. They honor treacherous side of the game above all and will try to scam you or lure your JF into their killboard. Though that is perfectly valid way of playing Eve online I personally find it disgusting and will never ever make any deal with any of them.
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-05-11 07:37:35 UTC
Ty i will check into that

Ya, i know better than deal with code...i cant pvp very well but if i could they would be the top of my targrt lists lol
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-11 08:21:45 UTC
I'm standing right here guys :(

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-05-11 08:45:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
erg cz wrote:
Be very cautious speaking with anyone from CODE. They honor treacherous side of the game above all and will try to scam you or lure your JF into their killboard. Though that is perfectly valid way of playing Eve online I personally find it disgusting and will never ever make any deal with any of them.

You're from Villore Accords. You don't kill JFs in lowsec?

Has Villore Accords not worked alongside CODE. to kill a Fenrir in Udeama even?

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-05-11 08:52:50 UTC
No ones gonna be killin my jf lol, it never leaves station except to jump to another station, with my own cynos lighting the way....unless i make a screwup and light my cyno out of the sweet spot and end up out of range, or bounce off i dont see how id get caught......or im dumb enough to go yo a player owned outpost that i cant enter i suppose.

Im only asking general regions not exact station and times to jump lol nor is this my jf char....figured that is better left unsaid.

But ya dot lan naps and activity msp gives me sone ideas
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2016-05-11 09:14:36 UTC
i hear rancer, thelan, miroitem and evati is great for making dank isk on the market

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#10 - 2016-05-11 11:45:17 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Be very cautious speaking with anyone from CODE. They honor treacherous side of the game above all and will try to scam you or lure your JF into their killboard. Though that is perfectly valid way of playing Eve online I personally find it disgusting and will never ever make any deal with any of them.

You're from Villore Accords. You don't kill JFs in lowsec?

Has Villore Accords not worked alongside CODE. to kill a Fenrir in Udeama even?


Villore Accords is a well lubricated PVP machine on the side of noble gallente militia. We prefer fight against people, who fight back. Thats the difference between us and so-called pirats or gankers. Of casue there are exceptions happening from time to time, we are no angels. CODE made on ganking helpless targfets, on blackmailing miners etc. Some say that CODE are heros, who bring at least some life into high sec, but in my personal opinion they are nerds, who try to cure their own RL miserability by notorous ganking unarmed ships. I see red vs blue as much better high sec content creators...

Well, if Eve has some lore, some role-playing color, then FW is the big (if not the only, since imperium is gone) part of it. For most of 1337 PVPiers, who writes in that forum, EVE is basically counter-strike in space, without history or future, but for me, as a gallente patriot, it is perfectly legid to kill whatever caldari ship whenever in Caldari space. including Uedama. Not saying all or at aleast 10 % of gal mil think the same, but the whole debate in that matter was about my own personal opinion. ;)
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2016-05-11 12:18:06 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
So Ive heard a few ppl that i know, that also are secretive on where they do things, that they make significant ISK seeding various stations in null space. I have a bunch of cyno alts and a jf char so in theory I also could attempt it. I am good at using the jf so i know how not get it blown up lol, i did a lot of transporting for my old guild, they bought me it and let me keep it when the guild broke up.

Now since im alone i am clueless how to proceed, as im guildless i dont have null areas i can seed so what would be the best way to proceed, would it be best for me to try npc stations in npc space like wildlands geminate, stain etc. Or should i look to provi for instance.

Any tips would be welcomed....i ofc will do a lot more research and not take everything said as gospil.... it is eve afterall..gotta be skeptical of everything.

But i would like some ideas on how to start picking a location.

Thanks in advance.


You're more than welcome to stock the market in X-M2 in Syndicate.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#12 - 2016-05-11 14:45:54 UTC
One suggestion, use the in-game map set to empire and faction Sov. It will show what npc spaces there are in null. Then compare those spots to areas of known activity and regional powers. For example, in would avoid ORE space as that tends to be heavily camped with groups trying to protect the BPO market for ORE items. On the other hand, 1DH is near the querious fight club and may work. I believe It is blood raiders.

Other areas would be Sisters of Eve space as the l.p. there is decent. Plus it is not far from PH's home so roams may pass through there or base out of there and need supplies. Mordus space may also be advantagous because of the ships you can buy from the l.p. store. Sansha space has Slave implants in the l.p. store so that may be another area. Basically stock the NPC mission hubs, supporting the locals.
Nalia White
Tencus
#13 - 2016-05-11 16:47:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
So Ive heard a few ppl that i know, that also are secretive on where they do things, that they make significant ISK seeding various stations in null space. I have a bunch of cyno alts and a jf char so in theory I also could attempt it. I am good at using the jf so i know how not get it blown up lol, i did a lot of transporting for my old guild, they bought me it and let me keep it when the guild broke up.

Now since im alone i am clueless how to proceed, as im guildless i dont have null areas i can seed so what would be the best way to proceed, would it be best for me to try npc stations in npc space like wildlands geminate, stain etc. Or should i look to provi for instance.

Any tips would be welcomed....i ofc will do a lot more research and not take everything said as gospil.... it is eve afterall..gotta be skeptical of everything.

But i would like some ideas on how to start picking a location.

Thanks in advance.


You're more than welcome to stock the market in X-M2 in Syndicate.


hey i am doing that already to lure you guys to k5 :P

Syndicate - K5-JRD

Home to few, graveyard for many

My biggest achievement

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2016-05-11 17:07:38 UTC
Well a little competition won't do you any harm, I am sure. There are plenty of gaps in the shelves yet.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2016-05-11 17:42:29 UTC
"guild"



/me lowers his spectacles to explode the OP's freighter with a pair of cherry-red laser beams, and then turns around and walks away as the hulk assplodes into a million teeny weeny pieces

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Martis Gradivus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-05-11 17:51:39 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
"guild"



/me lowers his spectacles to explode the OP's freighter with a pair of cherry-red laser beams, and then turns around and walks away as the hulk assplodes into a million teeny weeny pieces


Hmmm....that word seems to have really affected you........how did a hulk get into this? Or did the mention of CODE automaticamally add Hulk?

And anyways....I'd shoot those beams through the spectamacles......more dps as the beam is more focused.....
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2016-05-11 18:02:37 UTC
Martis Gradivus wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
"guild"



/me lowers his spectacles to explode the OP's freighter with a pair of cherry-red laser beams, and then turns around and walks away as the hulk assplodes into a million teeny weeny pieces


Hmmm....that word seems to have really affected you........how did a hulk get into this? Or did the mention of CODE automaticamally add Hulk?

And anyways....I'd shoot those beams through the spectamacles......more dps as the beam is more focused.....



/me lowers his spectacles and turns to face Martis

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-05-11 19:09:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Negotiatrix
Ah sorry, corp

I tried archeage for awhile cause they claimed sandbox...didnt like the pay to win aspect in it but the guild terminology stuck i guess

Also can blame swg.... not the game you assumed though i bet lol
Rook Moray
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-05-11 19:25:27 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
So Ive heard a few ppl that i know, that also are secretive on where they do things, that they make significant ISK seeding various stations in null space. I have a bunch of cyno alts and a jf char so in theory I also could attempt it. I am good at using the jf so i know how not get it blown up lol, i did a lot of transporting for my old guild, they bought me it and let me keep it when the guild broke up.

Now since im alone i am clueless how to proceed, as im guildless i dont have null areas i can seed so what would be the best way to proceed, would it be best for me to try npc stations in npc space like wildlands geminate, stain etc. Or should i look to provi for instance.

Any tips would be welcomed....i ofc will do a lot more research and not take everything said as gospil.... it is eve afterall..gotta be skeptical of everything.

But i would like some ideas on how to start picking a location.

Thanks in advance.



The other option, of course, is to Join HORDE.

PH is always looking for people to help build up things in Querious and Fade. Hop into the JoinHORDE channel, ask whatever questions you might have and see if we're a good fit for you. Horde does things a bit differently than some of the other major alliances, so maybe we can offer you some of the things you're looking for?

Provi is a good choice too. Curse is well...Curse. Curse is like that little backwater neighborhood on the edge of town.

“When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.” -Guristas Proverb.

Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-05-12 04:06:08 UTC
Thanks for the advice guys, it may be a bit naive and i know it probably would never happen due to the nature of eve but id love to form a corp that seeds many markets, perhaps builds some of there own stufff, but for the most part be mainly an economic corp that just provides products around eve....i can do a couple areas myself of course but for what i would like it would mean including others which given eve would naturally try to steal the isk that would be required to purchase items to sell...

Wed have to have other incomes like pos which ofc big alliances would wanna blow up....and it would require the corp being peacefull to many other groups....

So like i said a pipe dream that i have no shot at but i can at least seed 2 or 3 markets myself, maybe even build some caps or run a few hidden pos's somewhere to generate additional revinue...but ya that is my motivation in this lol

Ill look into the area mentioned and see what i can do, thanks everyone for the help
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