Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Your first paragraph - I specifically stated high end anoms. The high end anoms should have most of the ships in every wave pointing you, webbing you and neuting you. Newbies shouldn't have a chance surviving high end anoms in null. Low ends should be like low end wh content. High ends should be like high end wh content. I don't want to chase new players away from the game, but I also don't think high end content should be available to the new player.

Second paragraph - If a player using drones as the primary damage dealer - the npcs should go for them. UI.... AI.... oops!

third paragraph - agree, removing auto agro mechanics will solve a lot of things in all parts of eve. I really want to get rid of local because the game is just more fun w/out it. On this topic though, there are no bots or afk ratters in wh space primarily due to no local. Local is a major bot tool. The game doesn't NEED local. BOTS NEED local. AFK players can't be pinged by corpies when a non blue enters local if there is no local. It just needs to go. (I'll agree w/ you on auto agro needing to go and I'll agree to disagree on local - I've given up trying to put manpants on null bears... they just don't fit)

With regard to earlier posters comments about bounties rising with this sort of proposal, the answer is simple (and could be applied to all ratting)

* Rat bounties are only at 100% for so many months of a ton's life. Then they fall by 10% per month

* rat bounties for these anomalies would be NIL -- people would "earn"£ by salvaging -- which with bigger and better rats every 60 seconds or so, could make salvaging a challenging career.

* the rats should also note who, of the PCs, is fighting them and who is attacking other PCs -- the latter should be ignored by the new rats, unless/until they join in. There, PvE and PvP in one package.

Because once a sites done, you have to move on. With your idea i can get a few caps and a fax and sit in one site making it spawn bigger and bigger rats with bigger and bigger bounties/loot drops to suicide against me. Id probably make more isk in one site than i could in several systems worth of today's sites.

Id also only be using a single mtu and have an alt take from it every now and then.

It doesn't need to be infinite to skew the income drastically. You spend much less time looking for site and warping so that's time you spend shooting instead. You'd also get more and more BS rats which are more worthwhile to shoot.If you get a few extra waves out of each site you run, you are already banking in more money with sites that spawn more rats as long as you are there.

Of course, when somebody that has read the whole post and understood the proposition correctly, brings forward a reasoning against said proposition. That's not the case.
I could just say "Read the OP again", but since I already did and seems futile, I'll make a clear and simple example.

You seem to somehow imagine my proposition as "constant, static, and manageable waves of enemies appear from time to time, so if you manage to kill the first, you keep killing them forever".

However what I said is EVER GROWING waves appear at regular intervals, so soon enemies will start to accumulate and in some time (be it 10 minutes or 30 or 60) you either warp away or die.

Illustrative Example:

You're already in minute 15 of the anomaly, in your example in a dreadnought and a FAX. You're big and easy to hit, so waves now consist mostly of battleships and tackle. But up until this point you've managed to kill every ship in every wave when the next one arrives. You somehow kill enemies approximately at a rate of 3 Battleships per minute because you're in a dreadnought and have some support from your alt.

At minute 20 a new wave of 20 Battleships, 10 cruisers, and 5 frigates arrive.

At minute 25, 25 battleships, 12 cruisers, and 7 frigates arrive. However this time, you didn't manage to wipe out the previous wave, and 5 Battleships and 5 cruisers are still here. So right now you face 30 BBs, 17 CCs, and 7FFs.

At minute 30, 30 BBS, 15 CCs, and 10 FFs arrive. But you still have a lot of ships in the field from before. Right now you face 45 BBs, 30 CCs, and 17 FFs

At minute 35 a new wave with 35 BBs, 17 CCs, and 12 FFs arrive.Right now you're facing 65 BBs, 47 CCs, and 29 FFs.
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Please, continue the series. Now, good luck tanking that. And by the way you're tackled to hell.

A good criticism and a potential problem I can foresee is this being too resource intensive. That's ok, I could surrender to that. But saying this is manageable and tankable to infinity... Nope, sorry.

If you add alts to the ecuation, the damage will end up being so massive you risk a chain reaction when the first player ship pops, if the logi fails for some reason or if the rats switch targets.

If you add real players... good, that can still happen but it's more difficult. But you already managed to turn this into a group activity. Much better than these same players being each one on its own in a different anomaly. You're splitting the bounties so everything balances out. In fact, for the first X minutes (X depending on the spawning ratio and the number of players) this will actually be less efficient ISK-wise, you'll be sitting there waiting for the anomaly to "heat up". And in the end, after enough time, wave damage will have so much alpha that people will start to pop anyway.