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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#61 - 2016-05-13 15:08:23 UTC
I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?

It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"



It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#62 - 2016-05-13 15:23:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Glitch Online
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?

It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"



It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed.


a) I am against the new ship, my sugestion is different. Trust me when i say reading comprehension is your friend.
b) it does answer it, you're not understanding what you read.
c) answers have been provided. Repeating my self won't help you I'm afraid.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#63 - 2016-05-13 15:39:03 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?

It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"



It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed.


a) I am against the new ship, my sugestion is different. Trust me when i say reading comprehension is your friend.
b) it does answer it, you're not understanding what you read.
c) answers have been provided. Repeating my self won't help you I'm afraid.



Are you a Reaver alt?
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#64 - 2016-05-13 15:49:56 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:

Are you a Reaver alt?


... and that is relevant to the topic how?
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#65 - 2016-05-13 16:21:05 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:

Are you a Reaver alt?


... and that is relevant to the topic how?



It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....


How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#66 - 2016-05-13 17:23:18 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:



It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....


How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?


Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game.
As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#67 - 2016-05-13 21:26:40 UTC
Live somewhere that requires more than F1 monkeys to fight and you'll suddenly find yourself with some backup FCs without even trying.
Iain Cariaba
#68 - 2016-05-13 23:36:54 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:



It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....


How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?


Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game.
As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou.

Incorrect.

See the picture and name you post under? Yeah, the forums are just another part of the meta that revolves around EvE.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#69 - 2016-05-14 00:09:43 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Live somewhere that requires more than F1 monkeys to fight and you'll suddenly find yourself with some backup FCs without even trying.


Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#70 - 2016-05-14 00:10:32 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:



It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....


How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?


Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game.
As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou.

Incorrect.

See the picture and name you post under? Yeah, the forums are just another part of the meta that revolves around EvE.


Oh cool, when do i get to roll the D20 then?
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#71 - 2016-05-14 02:04:12 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already.


Maybe (just maybe) that's because you're being told what you're suggesting isn't the best idea.

You should adjust to changes. I agree 100%. Get more capable FCs. End game isn't supposed to be easy. Or are you trolling? It seems like you are, reading responses.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#72 - 2016-05-14 02:33:04 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already.


Maybe (just maybe) that's because you're being told what you're suggesting isn't the best idea.

You should adjust to changes. I agree 100%. Get more capable FCs. End game isn't supposed to be easy. Or are you trolling? It seems like you are, reading responses.


Nope, not trolling. Just responding in kind, i also refuse to enable those who continue to ask the same question when an answer has already been given. It may not be what they want to hear or in the format that they expect, but the answer is there.

I agree end-game ( and this may or may not exist for all in this Sand-Box ) isn't suppose to be easy, but as i've stated before, no one way of playing is the right way for every one, and not all ideas are bad just because another player disagrees with the game play it'll bring.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#73 - 2016-05-14 02:44:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
soooo

what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?



WAIT

i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread

want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#74 - 2016-05-14 02:50:18 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
soooo

what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?



WAIT

i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread

want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it


I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#75 - 2016-05-14 03:01:35 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
soooo

what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?



WAIT

i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread

want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it


I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again.


well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group

and you said nothing about freighters


also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#76 - 2016-05-14 03:02:35 UTC
Here's a trick that some good FCs do:

Decentralize the command structure

You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it.
You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down.
You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.

By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.

How did you Veterans start?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#77 - 2016-05-14 03:03:58 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Here's a trick that some good FCs do:

Decentralize the command structure

You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it.
You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down.
You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.

By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.



please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#78 - 2016-05-14 03:07:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Here's a trick that some good FCs do:

Decentralize the command structure

You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it.
You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down.
You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.

By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.



please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up

Sounds like a personal problem then.

Sometimes the best solution is to give up control rather than concentrate it.

How did you Veterans start?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#79 - 2016-05-14 03:11:52 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Here's a trick that some good FCs do:

Decentralize the command structure

You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it.
You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down.
You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.

By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.



please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up

Sounds like a personal problem then.

Sometimes the best solution is to give up control rather than concentrate it.



particularly with logistics i refuse to fly in a cap chain if we have to talk over the main FC

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#80 - 2016-05-14 03:13:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Glitch Online
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
soooo

what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?



WAIT

i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread

want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it


I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again.


well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group

and you said nothing about freighters


also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics


Not sure if i understood your "commander" statement, but here goes an answer. You set up your commanders and who is under them ahead of time, if done right you have no need to move them Mid-Battle.

You are right, i said nothing with regards to Freighters, because i've made it clear that if you want to use, say... 100 Shuttles to gain immunity to any dmg, then go for it. (see... repeating my self again)

Its not a matter of FCing from Logistic ship. with the resistance bonus, Fleet Commanders would put their logistic in Wing Commander possitions to gain the bonus. This could lead to a stale-mate where 2 fleets meet and neither can kill each other because Logistic is holding and keeping every one alive.