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Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#1 - 2011-12-18 20:02:26 UTC
As some of you may have noticed, I recently left PIE Inc. and joined Teraa Matar. I would like to publicly pledge my allegiance to Avlynka Surionen, her corporation, Teraa Matar and her cause, ending the destruction of the Matari people.

I still believe in God and I will continue to spread His word and wisdom to those who are willing to listen. But I will no longer watch as people are humiliated and reduced to drug addicted, shells of their former selves. My family owns slaves, though I do not and they are treated with the same dignity and respect that we afford anyone else under our employ. I know that there are many good Holders out there, but as long as the Empire allows the mass abuse of slaves, I cannot support it, as sad as that makes me.

For more information, please read about the Vitoc Problem.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#2 - 2011-12-18 20:25:40 UTC
Conventia Underking wrote:
As some of you may have noticed, I recently left PIE Inc. and joined Teraa Matar. I would like to publicly pledge my allegiance to Avlynka Surionen, her corporation, Teraa Matar and her cause, ending the destruction of the Matari people.


I may as well take the opportunity to also pledge my support to Ava and Teraa Matar. Really, Conventia, you and Astrid have done much to foster my loyalty and own fascination with the leadership of our Commander, and I can't help but to thank you for it.
Vallek Arkonnis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-12-18 20:26:49 UTC
I suppose you might wanna change that sig then. Smile
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2011-12-18 20:32:56 UTC
Vallek Arkonnis wrote:
I suppose you might wanna change that sig then. Smile


These artifacts of my former life take time to work through. I appreciate the reminder, however.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2011-12-18 20:41:45 UTC
There is no middle ground. You have decided to oppose God and the Empire.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#6 - 2011-12-18 20:42:27 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
There is no middle ground. You have decided to oppose God and the Empire.


That is for God and The Empire to decide.
Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-18 20:44:37 UTC
Good luck within the TLF. May you and Teraa Matar find Victory and Glory.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#8 - 2011-12-18 20:56:29 UTC
I assume your change of heart will come with the release or granting of freedom to slaves under your ownership then?

Or at least pressure on your family to reconsider at the least.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Myxx
The Scope
#9 - 2011-12-18 21:02:50 UTC
Now isn't that interesting.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-12-18 21:20:28 UTC
Myxx wrote:
Now isn't that interesting.


Not really.

As I suspected, something wasn't quite right with her.

Just remember, TM pilots: Once a turncoat, always a turncoat. Don't be surprised when she has another crisis of faith and burns a few more bridges.

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-12-18 21:24:11 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:


Just remember, TM pilots: Once a turncoat, always a turncoat. Don't be surprised when she has another crisis of faith and burns a few more bridges.


Or her fellow pilots, either way it would be utterly foolish to not keep her on a tight leash indefinatly.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2011-12-18 21:58:27 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
There is no middle ground. You have decided to oppose God and the Empire.


I never said there was a middle ground. I have clearly picked a side.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2011-12-18 22:02:25 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
I assume your change of heart will come with the release or granting of freedom to slaves under your ownership then?


I have never owned slaves, so this concern is irrelevant. I defend those who need defending, I do not enslave people.

Caellach Marellus wrote:
Or at least pressure on your family to reconsider at the least.


My family knows my feelings on the matter.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2011-12-18 22:04:40 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:


Just remember, TM pilots: Once a turncoat, always a turncoat. Don't be surprised when she has another crisis of faith and burns a few more bridges.


Or her fellow pilots, either way it would be utterly foolish to not keep her on a tight leash indefinatly.


Once again, thank you Miss Vitalia for your concern and the same to you, Mr Areth.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#15 - 2011-12-18 22:08:16 UTC
I for one am thrilled to have Conventia onboard. She is an asset to Teraa Matar, and a credit to the human race as a whole, posessing the ability to make a decision in spite of the ethnocentric influences so many of us are mired in.

I feel no need to keep her on "a short leash". She has made a decision which, were I in her place, I would likely lack the strength to make.

Besides, it would seem that the very act of "keeping people on a leash" is what convinced her to join us in the first place, hmm?

Avlynka Surionen

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2011-12-18 22:11:46 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
I for one am thrilled to have Conventia onboard. She is an asset to Teraa Matar, and a credit to the human race as a whole, posessing the ability to make a decision in spite of the ethnocentric influences so many of us are mired in.

I feel no need to keep her on "a short leash". She has made a decision which, were I in her place, I would likely lack the strength to make.

Besides, it would seem that the very act of "keeping people on a leash" is what convinced her to join us in the first place, hmm?

Avlynka Surionen


Thank you, Shaman Surionen. I will not let you down.

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking
Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-12-18 22:16:54 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
I for one am thrilled to have Conventia onboard. She is an asset to Teraa Matar, and a credit to the human race as a whole, posessing the ability to make a decision in spite of the ethnocentric influences so many of us are mired in.

I feel no need to keep her on "a short leash". She has made a decision which, were I in her place, I would likely lack the strength to make.

Besides, it would seem that the very act of "keeping people on a leash" is what convinced her to join us in the first place, hmm?

Avlynka Surionen


The amount of trust placed on new members of the Republic are of little concern to me however i support and congratulate any act of agression against the Empire and do hope Ms.Underking proves to be a valuable asset in your upcoming conflicts.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#18 - 2011-12-18 23:56:59 UTC
Conventia Underking wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
I assume your change of heart will come with the release or granting of freedom to slaves under your ownership then?


I have never owned slaves, so this concern is irrelevant. I defend those who need defending, I do not enslave people.

Caellach Marellus wrote:
Or at least pressure on your family to reconsider at the least.


My family knows my feelings on the matter.



Thank you for the clarification Captain, best of luck with your future endeavours.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#19 - 2011-12-19 01:51:50 UTC
I'm afraid to say you've broken the threshold, pilot. Once you move from one flag to another, then there's no telling next when you'll move along once again. Rarely have I seen permanent allegiance changes from one's place of birth to another cause.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-19 05:42:48 UTC
Well, like I said in the other thread, I've got a lot of respect for you because of this choice you've made. I'll have even more if you can make it stick.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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