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So what happened to the current Sov war?
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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2016-05-07 03:47:00 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation.


GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now.


War is over.

AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's.

If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2016-05-07 03:55:49 UTC
I have a feeling that Sov is in transition. Systems now can change hands far easier than before, and after seeing just what is possible now I feel and believe that this is the beginning of a much larger war. I don't know how it will play out, but the whole World War Bee thing was very likely just the start of something that is going to be very massive and very bloody this summer.

No one is Null is safe any longer.... and the blood gods demand blood! Evil
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2016-05-07 04:20:17 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation.


GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now.


War is over.

AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's.

If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones.



We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot.




You guys got stomped.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-05-07 15:32:22 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation.


GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now.


War is over.

AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's.

If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones.



We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot.




You guys got stomped.

So you all are breaking up, and going your separate ways, after only a month. We lost territory, we knew that was going to happen, given the amount of sycophantic hangers on you guys collected. I wonder who predicted that you guys would take territory, claim victory and split up after about a month?

Hell it hadn't been a month before your 'allies' started AWOXing each others supers. You just don't understand, Goons didn't get stomped, we were just waiting for you to declare: Mission Accomplished, get bored, and flounce off all proud of yourselves that you 'defeated the ebil Goonies'. Meanwhile the all important slope that truly declares Goonswarm dead isn't there, in fact you guys are crowing about the ratting alts drooping corp(which happens to be less than 5% BTW) and calling it a failure cascade.

Maybe you don't understand what a failure cascade really is. I'll give you an example http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/En_Garde/stats/2012-11-01:2013-02-13 is a failure cascade, this is not a failure cascade http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/stats/2016-03-06:2016-08-08 Notice the difference?

So please continue to write your fan fiction about how Goonies got stomped, lost all their territory, and will never be allowed to form up and hold space ever again. Oh and we don't undock

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2016-05-07 16:30:28 UTC
MBC: we won because the coalition known as cfc/imperium is all but dead.

Goons: we didn't lose, because we'll surely retake some sov if the MBC stops fighting us.

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Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#46 - 2016-05-07 18:44:14 UTC

"Orkses are never defeated in battle. If we win, we win, an' if we die, we die, so it don't count as defeat 'cos it don't matter to uz. If we run away we don't die neither, so we can always come back for annuver go, see?"




"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2016-05-07 18:57:22 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
MBC: we won because the coalition known as cfc/imperium is all but dead.

Goons: we didn't lose, because we'll surely retake some sov if the MBC stops fighting us.



I do not think you understand the Goons very well. You could take all their space and they will just keep on buzzing. Everyone in the game knows their history and what they are capable of, so you know they aren't delusional. I would also add that if the coffers of IWI and entire forces of MBC has not broken their spirits and determination, then nothing will! Not to even mention how they already failed to keep taking their space while goons easily retake it daily. I suppose that is because people are too busy leeching off IWI and taking all they can get from them while the candy is still being passed out.

Many seem to expect this war to be swift, and for Goons to fall apart. They further add to this idea by pointing out all those leaving Goonswarm, as well as DJ returning proclaiming to usher in the new era of true goons. The enemy seems to see this as weakness but lacks the depth to truly grasp the complexities of what is really going on. What they fail to understand is that goons are everywhere, they aren't all just in GSF. There is a much bigger meta game going on here that just seems to go over the heads of the clearly simple minded folk; those who prop up their MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banners and look like goofs in the process.

Goons aren't going anywhere, they are going everywhere.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2016-05-07 21:58:13 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation.


GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now.


War is over.

AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's.

If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones.



We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot.




You guys got stomped.

So you all are breaking up, and going your separate ways, after only a month. We lost territory, we knew that was going to happen, given the amount of sycophantic hangers on you guys collected. I wonder who predicted that you guys would take territory, claim victory and split up after about a month?

Hell it hadn't been a month before your 'allies' started AWOXing each others supers. You just don't understand, Goons didn't get stomped, we were just waiting for you to declare: Mission Accomplished, get bored, and flounce off all proud of yourselves that you 'defeated the ebil Goonies'. Meanwhile the all important slope that truly declares Goonswarm dead isn't there, in fact you guys are crowing about the ratting alts drooping corp(which happens to be less than 5% BTW) and calling it a failure cascade.

Maybe you don't understand what a failure cascade really is. I'll give you an example http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/En_Garde/stats/2012-11-01:2013-02-13 is a failure cascade, this is not a failure cascade http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/stats/2016-03-06:2016-08-08 Notice the difference?

So please continue to write your fan fiction about how Goonies got stomped, lost all their territory, and will never be allowed to form up and hold space ever again. Oh and we don't undock





Keep telling yourself that while sitting on the Saranen undock.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#49 - 2016-05-07 22:11:43 UTC
The MBC needed to keep the pressure on goons for much longer to have any lasting effect. They had a good initial push, but an initial push is all it has been.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2016-05-07 22:55:56 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Goons aren't going anywhere, they are going everywhere because they're docked in Saranen.
FTFY

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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-05-07 23:36:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Falin Whalen
Aiwha wrote:

Keep telling yourself that while sitting on the Saranen undock.

You're right,
we
never
leave
Saranen
undock.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2016-05-07 23:46:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Digits Kho
IMO the recent beatings made GSF lose some excess fat (sma and so ), they got a firm conclusion on who can and cant be relied on and what their alliance is actualy capable of and what not. Assuming they / their leadership learn from all these events then maybe it was infact just what they needed for sometime now . As for the mbc, it aint built to last anyways and when it dissolves, any of its former members will crack just from 16k people GSF being in a constellation near them, let alone trying to stop them from rebuilding lol
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#53 - 2016-05-07 23:50:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard.
MBC says we don't undock

GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger
MBC says 'no no this time they are done'

GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever'
MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out

If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#54 - 2016-05-08 00:26:13 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard.
MBC says we don't undock

GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger
MBC says 'no no this time they are done'

GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever'
MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out

If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time.


Goons may have survived but the Imperium didn't, and honestly thats good enough for me. Mega coalitions were always cancerous to EVE and now the last one is dead and gone. Whether goons can accept that fact is entirely up to them.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#55 - 2016-05-08 00:30:29 UTC
The Imperium and The Romeingrad fell to the Huns, Magyars, Goths, Visigoths, Punks and Vandals. There's still a True Goon sector, and some of them are running hit-and-run (sword) fleets. Who knows how deep their pockets are? Or if there's any HAL 9000 controlling them? Or some HAL 3000s, 1500s, and HAL 486s feeding them? Or are they just volunteers living off the land and KB juice?

Anyway, EVE is not dead, and neither is grr goons Smile
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2016-05-08 01:11:01 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The Imperium and The Romeingrad fell to the Huns, Magyars, Goths, Visigoths, Punks and Vandals. There's still a True Goon sector, and some of them are running hit-and-run (sword) fleets. Who knows how deep their pockets are? Or if there's any HAL 9000 controlling them? Or some HAL 3000s, 1500s, and HAL 486s feeding them? Or are they just volunteers living off the land and KB juice?

Anyway, EVE is not dead, and neither is grr goons Smile



For sure, you don't even have to be a die hard EVE player to know that this isn't the end but verily I say this is just the beginning. Nothing is quite as it seems O.O
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#57 - 2016-05-08 02:21:32 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard.
MBC says we don't undock

GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger
MBC says 'no no this time they are done'

GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever'
MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out

If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time.




Like I said, enjoy saranen.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#58 - 2016-05-08 14:29:38 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Like I said, enjoy saranen.

I don't find it much on this list
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/kills

Can you help?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2016-05-08 14:53:12 UTC
Same **** with Bob tbh

eve rose up

threw bad guys down

bad guys lol

bads guys won

bads guys came back n lol'ed on forums

rest of eve goes silent on forums

rinse and repeat incoming blue ball for ratting and POS access

stagnant as ****

n people wonder why i stay in high sec....

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2016-05-09 10:13:40 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:



I do not think you understand the Goons very well. You could take all their space and they will just keep on buzzing.


Thats the goons I was part of, what fell apart when we hit it was the imperium. The goons of old is gone, all the people that made it a thing have either stopped playing or left the organisation.