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Cap stability. Ingame vs EFT
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Zen Lena
#1 - 2016-05-04 18:52:31 UTC
I was setting up a neut ship and EFT says the fit is cap stable. However, ingame fit says no. Which is correct?
Ralph King-Griffin
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#2 - 2016-05-04 18:58:25 UTC
Ingame > eft

Also pvp fits are rarely cap stable.

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Zen Lena
#3 - 2016-05-04 19:11:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Lena
I was trying to fit a neuting Osprey navy issue. 3 medium neuts w/ a medium cap booster. and also tried a 4 medium neut Ashimmu w/ cap booster. Both are AB fit. Both said cap stable via EFT but ingame was different.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2016-05-04 19:38:28 UTC
EFT uses the modules you have activated and accounts for the cap boosters, ingame assumses everthing is on and AFAIK doesn't account for cap boosters.

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Luscius Uta
#5 - 2016-05-04 19:39:04 UTC
That's because ingame fits never take cap influx injected through cap boosters in equation. It basically considers a cap booster to be a module doing nothing at all. Also, if you have a dual-prop fit it will assume you'll have both mwd and afterburner running at the same, resulting in a much shorter cap life than in reality, and if you have a mjd it will ignore reactivation delay. So, ingame fitting browser can display inaccurate results.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-04 20:31:47 UTC
It's also because EFT considers (correctly) the capacitor's max recharge rate, while in-game considers average recharge rate.

Capacitor doesn't recharge linearly, it's max at around 30% IIRC. It recharges slower if less than or greater than 30%.

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Tsukino Stareine
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Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-05-05 10:51:01 UTC
EFT is broken atm as well, cap usage isn't correct and also will tell you you're not stable even with positive cap delta.

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Zen Lena
#8 - 2016-05-05 13:26:07 UTC
Luscius Uta wrote:
That's because ingame fits never take cap influx injected through cap boosters in equation. It basically considers a cap booster to be a module doing nothing at all. Also, if you have a dual-prop fit it will assume you'll have both mwd and afterburner running at the same, resulting in a much shorter cap life than in reality, and if you have a mjd it will ignore reactivation delay. So, ingame fitting browser can display inaccurate results.


Gotcha. Glad to hear that EFT is correct then. Thanks
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#9 - 2016-05-06 15:58:30 UTC
Zen Lena wrote:
I was setting up a neut ship and EFT says the fit is cap stable. However, ingame fit says no. Which is correct?

Why are you trying to make a PvP ship cap stable?