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DO NOT WANT TO PAY NEARLY 1 MIL TO JC

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Mr Binkins
Lumen's Lieutenants
#1 - 2016-05-04 03:08:17 UTC
I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-05-04 03:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Mr Binkins wrote:
I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil.

Like the rest of us, if you don't want to be ripped off by scumbag, scamming NPCs, find a friendly player with a Citadel who isn't charging, or who is charging much less.

Those nasty NPCs really suck, but other players are really cool.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-05-04 04:21:42 UTC
Build your own citadels in Jita and Dodixie then.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Keebler Wizard
Skew The Suits
#4 - 2016-05-04 04:39:39 UTC
It was suppose to be 5m per jump, then they changed it to 900k.

Cry more please
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#5 - 2016-05-04 04:53:45 UTC
#nopoorspls

Just Add Water

Wanda Fayne
#6 - 2016-05-04 05:40:21 UTC
This is like the best change everLol

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2016-05-04 06:14:02 UTC
... you can make 1m in less time that it takes to JC but if you want it cheaper use a
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-05-04 07:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
I agree with the OP.

Waiting damn near 24 hours for next jump is more than enough payment for using jump clones.

In my opinion CCP has placed way too much tax on NPC station services trying to force players into using Citadels. I highly doubt players are going to use an easily destructible structure as a major Trade Hub / Clone Bay in high and low sec.

Been playing this game for 8 years and the past year has seen some of the worst game changes forced upon the playerbase. New stuff isn't even tested anymore nor is player feedback even acknowledged. Each new release just adds more bugged and incomplete content to the ever growing list of things to fix.

Sorry peeps but that's how I view things.



DMC
Kieron VonDeux
#9 - 2016-05-04 07:52:22 UTC
JCs should be removed from game and we should be allowed to remove and replace implants in any clone bay station or via Clone Vat Bay on supported ships. Just make it so you can swap implants within 5km in space while the vat bay is active.

Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-05-04 08:09:22 UTC
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
JCs should be removed from game and we should be allowed to remove and replace implants in any clone bay station or via Clone Vat Bay on supported ships. Just make it so you can swap implants within 5km in space while the vat bay is active.



Do away with the jc charge or make it 100k per jump and make it 20k to plug in or remove any implant at a suitable station/ship/citadel with clone facilities. That way you could swap them around but it still creates an isk sink, just not in a big lump sum charge.

You remove them before jumping and have a set at the other end, but, if you jump with them in, you lose them all.

I'd even back lowering the timer to say 10 or 8 hours so you could jump back the next morning.

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#11 - 2016-05-04 08:26:11 UTC
fck all this entitlement bs... now i want for the to clone upgrade mechanic and sp lose to come back. Evil

Just Add Water

sci0gon
Kaira Innovations
#12 - 2016-05-04 08:29:37 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Build your own citadels in Jita and Dodixie then.


Im not sure if thats possible.

Nat Silverguard wrote:
fck all this entitlement bs... now i want for the to clone upgrade mechanic and sp lose to come back. Evil


That certainly would push the price up on that experience injectors :P
Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-05-04 09:08:16 UTC
If you can't make 900k in a 19 hour period then you need to quit EVE
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#14 - 2016-05-04 10:37:13 UTC
Mr Binkins wrote:
I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil.
Stop being poor.

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Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-05-04 13:09:57 UTC
Are people seriously complaining about having to pay 900k ISK to travel across the entire galaxy instantly?
How poor are you?! Shocked
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#16 - 2016-05-04 13:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Julien Brellier wrote:
If you can't make 900k in a 19 hour period then you need to quit EVE


+1

900k isk is literally 54 seconds of ratting (using a Vexor Navy Issue in any null anomaly that has at least 1 battleship in it).

The average lvl 4 mission pays out something like 19 clone jumps per mission. Completing a SINGLE high sec HQ incursion site (which is about 8-15 minutes depending on the site and your fleet) pays enough for 35 jump clone jumps (ie a single incursion site pays for a month of jump cloning). And all the above are PVE activities, the OP seems like a station trader and station traders can earn WAY more income.


Funny thing is, I saw this in real life several times. The craziest happened when I was a younger. I'd visit my grandfather's farm from time to time. His neighbor was a well to do man who had retired after making a lot of money in some kind of financial sector career, and I was friends with the neighbors grandson, so one day when I was about 20 I was visiting their house when the old man came storming in complaining about injustice. My friend asked his granddad why he was upset and he proclaimed that "the price gouging United States Postal Service had done it again".

I came to find out the reason for his anger was that the price of a postage stamp went up from 29 cents to 32 cents that month. He mailed like 10 letters a month, so the USPS was getting him for a whole 'nother 30 cents per month over what he'd been paying. The guy with a 6 bedroom house and umpteen million acres of land lost his mind over 30 cents.

I think the same thing is happening here. People who are good at making money (like industrialist and station traders in EVE....) tend to be super skin-flint types when it comes to their own money, and see any kind of fee increase (no matter how trivial) as outright robbery. It seems silly to the rest of us (because it is) but it's just a part of what makes them tick.
Knitram Relik
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-05-04 13:25:53 UTC
You're crying over a million ISK a day?

Sack up. If that's hurting your bottom line, you're Eveing wrong.

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Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#18 - 2016-05-04 13:53:57 UTC
You could, oh I dunno undock and shoot something and get that million?
Too lazy? Uhh... trade more? Stop cloning? Fly the 12 jumps or whatever it is? Find friends with a citadel?

OH! Or you could just suck it up because there is zero wrong with it.
Hawke Frost
#19 - 2016-05-04 13:58:27 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I think the same thing is happening here. People who are good at making money (like industrialist and station traders in EVE....) tend to be super skin-flint types when it comes to their own money, and see any kind of fee increase (no matter how trivial) as outright robbery. It seems silly to the rest of us (because it is) but it's just a part of what makes them tick.


If you cross them just a tiny little bit in EVE, they go from "we're very friendly folks, those pvpers are nasty baby eating psychopaths!" to full-on ******. It's very entertaining to see how different people with different play styles react to being out played in this competitive game.
Shalashaska Adam
Snakes and Lasers
#20 - 2016-05-04 14:23:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalashaska Adam
Have they also added the ability to jump between clones docked in the same station without incurring the 24hr timer?

I do believe it was said those two changes were to be coming at the same time.
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