Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What lie? Where did I say getting exploded is 100% guaranteed cause of increase player retention?

All I did was repeat the data which shows a clear correlation between the two things and expressed support for CCP's rational interpretation of that data that stuff happening during the trial is more likely to keep players than no stuff happening during the trial.

You clearly don't share that interpretation. That's fine, there is no conclusive evidence either way. But I don't think I am being too heretical by suggesting that solo mining or even solo missioning where absolutely nothing interesting happens is not the greatest introduction to complex, social game that is Eve Online and may be the cause of many people not staying with the game. CCP has said they think that is the case many times including during CCP Ghost's presentation this year, and CCP Rise's famous 2014 talk where he talks about players burning out and unsubscribing after getting stuck on the "Leveling my Raven" train to nowhere.

Believe what you want. No one has done (or probably could do) the studies that are apparently necessary to dissuade you of your preconceived notions. Clearly though, CCP has looked at the data and decided that getting players involved with the game, even if it occasionally gets them exploded, is better than the alternative of trying to bubble-wrap them away from the real game play of Eve Online and boring them out of the game.

I happen to agree with them.

Spot on.

Though I wouldn't worry about the peanut gallery rubes, who from what I can tell are here just to crap on anyone elses ideas that don't comport with thier very specific style of play or they fear will take resources away from the things they demand CCP to do for them.

From what I've witnessed over the years, not only does CCP implement a lot of the ideas that the nay-saying rubes try to crap all over, but SO much of the awesome stuff and changes they have put in (because this is their universe and they know what attracts a broader audience) are things that had someone proposed them in F&I these jackasses heads would have exploded with rage against the idea, and told you how utterly worthless not only the idea is but you are as well for suggesting such stupidity.

So my advice to anyone who's been assaulted by these sociopaths is don't listen to the freaks, CCP is paying attention for good ineresting and original ideas and don't be surprised if an idea or change you proposed which they denigrated and berrated shows up in the game one day. I've seen it happen all the time.