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Tsukuni
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-05-02 10:39:47 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Tsukuni wrote:

Out of curiosity I tried to google Eve online 2 ...nothing came back to me. I can only assume ccp's priority is fixed firmly with end game content

I don't understand this question. Mostly I don't understand what you were looking for when you googled eve online 2.

As far as end game content there is no such thing in this sandbox. End game content exists in linear, progression based MMOs.

In Eve the players are the content. CCP just gives us the sandbox to play with each other in. CCP is not the content creators.



I googled Eve online 2 out of curiosity to see if CCP had any plans to to expand on the Eve universe. Maybe create an Eve 2 to counter some of the criticisms leveled at Eve about it being hardcore, noob unfriendly and a spreadsheet game. Eve's new player experience seems to me that it was something they started work on, realised it was pointless and left it in a halfway house between opportunities and agent missions people will stumble across.

Looking at Eves website I see details of epic battles, citadels costing billions of isk, corporate warfare etc if that's not endgame content I don't know what is.

Players may be the content but the sand has to come from somewhere. Ever try to build sandcastles with dry sand? Would be a bit messy like Eves new player experience.
Ankor Grammaten
Dragonhold Enterprises
#22 - 2016-05-02 17:35:57 UTC
Tsukuni wrote:

My plan was reativate my account and create a new alt to "refresh" my memory via rookie chat. Unfortunately rookie chat is unavailable (can only guess rookie chat is only available to new accounts) even though many here don't like rookie chat I always enjoyed it back in 2009. As you said things sunk in when you heard the same questions and replies over and over again


I can confirm that Rookie Chat is available to a new account for 30 days, then it goes away, and isn't made available to new alts that may be created after that. Makes sense I guess, as It's me that's the Rookie, not any particular alt.

The point I was trying make though, was that the endless repetition of very basic questions seems to suggest that the Rookie channel is doing a job that isn't being done elsewhere.

I've found that once I was past the first week or so I was pretty much able to manage on my own, using the other sources that have been mentioned here. It's just the early days that are difficult. I still remember plaintive cries like "OK I'm here, what do I do now?"

One of the best things I learned, and would pass on the the totally new player, is to purchase a single PLEX (around $20) which gives around 1B ISK when sold. This takes away all the initial grinding for ISK and allowed me to try things out in a more relaxed way. For example, I created an alt that I intend to use to make money, and the first thing I did was to develop mining up to "barge" level. The good thing was that once I had my Venture fitted and thoroughly tried out I didn't have to sit there watching it go round and round in order to get the ISK to fit the Retriever. The skills are another thing of course, It's much more expensive to buy injectors. 500,000 SP doesn't go anywhere as far as I thought it would!
Greg Fawx
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#23 - 2016-05-04 02:01:57 UTC
Tsukuni wrote:

Looking at Eves website I see details of epic battles, citadels costing billions of isk, corporate warfare etc if that's not endgame content I don't know what is.

Players may be the content but the sand has to come from somewhere. Ever try to build sandcastles with dry sand? Would be a bit messy like Eves new player experience.


New player here and i also had the end game question. Everybody says there isn't one but surely old players with lots of skill points can do lots of things that i cant right now. It's called progression. To see where they are and how they play after all these years sets the end game answer to new players. Ok i get it. It's a sandbox game. End game is conquer the universe. Any info about their end game epic battles or their stories can give new players goals to look for and careers to follow with specific skill leveling plans instead of " you can do anything you want" answers.
Tsukuni
Doomheim
#24 - 2016-05-04 12:04:35 UTC
Greg Fawx wrote:



New player here and i also had the end game question. Everybody says there isn't one but surely old players with lots of skill points can do lots of things that i cant right now. It's called progression. To see where they are and how they play after all these years sets the end game answer to new players. Ok i get it. It's a sandbox game. End game is conquer the universe. Any info about their end game epic battles or their stories can give new players goals to look for and careers to follow with specific skill leveling plans instead of " you can do anything you want" answers.


I'd be interested in knowing how you found starting out in EVE. This is my 3rd outing with the game so had some rudimentary knowledge. I've found I have a lot skills now already available but not the isk available to buy the items, so I think that works against you by not letting you slowly digest things. Seems more useful to veterans creating acts with the finances to equip them.
I've been slowly working my way through the "starter"agent missions. I found the exploration mission with probes mind like wing and think I just bumbled my way to completing it

How's your journey going?
Tsukuni
Doomheim
#25 - 2016-05-04 12:07:01 UTC
Ankor Grammaten wrote:


I can confirm that Rookie Chat is available to a new account for 30 days, then it goes away, and isn't made available to new alts that may be created after that. Makes sense I guess, as It's me that's the Rookie, not any particular alt.

The point I was trying make though, was that the endless repetition of very basic questions seems to suggest that the Rookie channel is doing a job that isn't being done elsewhere.

I've found that once I was past the first week or so I was pretty much able to manage on my own, using the other sources that have been mentioned here. It's just the early days that are difficult. I still remember plaintive cries like "OK I'm here, what do I do now?"

One of the best things I learned, and would pass on the the totally new player, is to purchase a single PLEX (around $20) which gives around 1B ISK when sold. This takes away all the initial grinding for ISK and allowed me to try things out in a more relaxed way. For example, I created an alt that I intend to use to make money, and the first thing I did was to develop mining up to "barge" level. The good thing was that once I had my Venture fitted and thoroughly tried out I didn't have to sit there watching it go round and round in order to get the ISK to fit the Retriever. The skills are another thing of course, It's much more expensive to buy injectors. 500,000 SP doesn't go anywhere as far as I thought it would!


The tip about buying isk is one I was considering. Will it be snapped up or stick around on the market for some time?
Greg Fawx
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#26 - 2016-05-04 17:34:10 UTC
Tsukuni wrote:

I'd be interested in knowing how you found starting out in EVE. This is my 3rd outing with the game so had some rudimentary knowledge. I've found I have a lot skills now already available but not the isk available to buy the items, so I think that works against you by not letting you slowly digest things. Seems more useful to veterans creating acts with the finances to equip them.
I've been slowly working my way through the "starter"agent missions. I found the exploration mission with probes mind like wing and think I just bumbled my way to completing it

How's your journey going?


I started 2 years ago the trial and after 3 hours of hitting the keyboard i gave up. It happens that some friends of mine ( from another mmo ) left to continue with eve and after some discussions i kinda felt jealous of the way they were speaking about it. the stories they had, the things they can do in the game etc.. so i said to myself.. ok Greg.. lets give it one more try and this time i will keep notes and google the sh*t out of it :P after the career agents i found my way around, joined my friends corp and now i can finally say that not only i enjoy the game but i am hooked to the bone ^^ so i payed my sub and i plan to stay in eve for a loooong time.
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