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1vs1 System

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-04-29 02:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Chopper Rollins wrote:
...hese weird fantasists with their strange ideas will always be lurking, looking for that hot 1v1 encounter in a place where they won't be interrupted.

I think it's even more basic then that.

What they are really looking for is 1v1 encounters where they have the advantage.

The reality is that it's easy to find a 1v1 fight, but that also requires committing to situations even when you are likely to lose. For example I could take out a T1 frigate and go engage (stupidly), a tactical destroyer; or something similar.

But people won't do that because they won't win (which is smart also), but instead of flying something that can engage a wide range of different targets, they just complain that they can't find fair fights.

Well, no **** Sherlock. The limitation isn't the availability of 1v1 fights though. The limitation is the players unwilling to fly something suitable for a lot of 1v1 fighting and an unwillingness to commit to a fight if there's a risk of loss.

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#22 - 2016-04-29 02:54:41 UTC
I had a wormholer ask me to 1v1 so I obliged.. ended up having a corpmate jump in What?Roll I was so disappointed and they just said that this was a lesson to not trust anyone.

My skin is so thin I just about quit then and there. Perhaps I should have PSmile

@lunettelulu7

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-04-29 03:16:49 UTC
Lulu Lunette wrote:
I had a wormholer ask me to 1v1 so I obliged.. ended up having a corpmate jump in What?Roll I was so disappointed and they just said that this was a lesson to not trust anyone.

My skin is so thin I just about quit then and there. Perhaps I should have PSmile

That is a pretty **** move of him though. That would cause many people to be pissed off.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-04-29 03:19:03 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
1. Maybe CCP could help.
GOOD solution could be that CCP put "Combat becons" with "acceleration gates" , wich allow to enter first 2 persons.
So other cant go in and disturb them. Or maybe beter becon that only first 2 ppl can warp, that pirats dont wait near acceleration gate;p
What do u think?


Then I go inside with my alt and I am perfectly safe in space and I don't even have to be cloaked.

You don't get to be perfectly safe in eve when you undock.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-04-29 04:06:50 UTC
Princess Adhara wrote:
You don't get to be perfectly safe in eve when you undock.

*activates cloak

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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#26 - 2016-04-29 05:20:26 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP is not going to help you and it's unlikely most other players would be inclined towards fair 1 vs 1.

The only way to do something like you want is to do it yourself. Either host a competition and hope you don't get hot-dropped or make a corp dedicated to honorable dueling and hope you don't get a bunch of morons joining to ruin it for you.

It's a lofty goal. Perhaps even a noble one. But EVE is a sandbox. It's up to you build your little castle and keep everyone else from kicking it down.

Good luck with it.

Mr Epeen Cool


Many Sandbox MMO's have dedicated Arenas to fight 1vs1 most of them have it.


name some
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#27 - 2016-04-29 05:21:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cypherous
Stupid double post
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#28 - 2016-04-29 08:31:48 UTC
You know, that novice and small PLEXes in FW will let you know, what is incomming? So you can stay for 1 vs 1 fight or run if more than 1 ship appears on short d-scan.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-04-29 08:37:20 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
OP, I think you should play a different game.


I love this game, its hard to find 1vs1 but its possible, why dont make it easier.


why not create a thunderdome event because you know player made content is a thing

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CaesarGREG
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2016-04-29 10:30:45 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
CaesarGREG wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP is not going to help you and it's unlikely most other players would be inclined towards fair 1 vs 1.

The only way to do something like you want is to do it yourself. Either host a competition and hope you don't get hot-dropped or make a corp dedicated to honorable dueling and hope you don't get a bunch of morons joining to ruin it for you.

It's a lofty goal. Perhaps even a noble one. But EVE is a sandbox. It's up to you build your little castle and keep everyone else from kicking it down.

Good luck with it.

Mr Epeen Cool


Many Sandbox MMO's have dedicated Arenas to fight 1vs1 most of them have it.


name some


Lineage2, World of Warcraft, ArchAge , Rift , ... google search
William Rokov
Better go yolo
Yolo Brothers
#31 - 2016-04-29 10:43:50 UTC
1 vs 1 pvp in eve is one of the most boring and predictable pvp situations. Your suggestion is really bad and there is no space in eve for it.

You can try to find 1x1 in faction wars, there are a lot of solo pilots. Just join some faction and go to plexes, sometimes you will get blobbed, but there will be also pretty huge amount of 1x1 fights.

No links, no scouts. True solo pvp pilot.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2016-05-05 21:08:32 UTC
A CCP dev already prototyped this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=375485

That's a solid way to do it, as 1v1s would become silly with no rules. Just like in a RL duel: if you bring a knife and I bring a machine gun... it kind of defies the point.

The limited set of ships and mods available to each honorable duelist provides a pretty solid framework for decent 1v1s.

Don't think I'd personally use it, except maybe to challenge corpmates and friends for laughs and PVP practice. I prefer solo roaming and figthing whatever I find, one or many. Or running away when necessary.


Anyways, the dev left and I've never heard of this project since.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2016-05-05 21:16:28 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
A CCP dev already prototyped this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=375485

That's a solid way to do it, as 1v1s would become silly with no rules. Just like in a RL duel: if you bring a knife and I bring a machine gun... it kind of defies the point.

The limited set of ships and mods available to each honorable duelist provides a pretty solid framework for decent 1v1s.

Don't think I'd personally use it, except maybe to challenge corpmates and friends for laughs and PVP practice. I prefer solo roaming and figthing whatever I find, one or many. Or running away when necessary.


Anyways, the dev left and I've never heard of this project since.


It got shot down.

EVE is not compatible with an arena.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#34 - 2016-05-05 21:18:00 UTC
im fairly certain the dojo was a goodbye troll on us anyway
Hawke Frost
#35 - 2016-05-05 22:58:49 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
hi

My dream is to make one system in whole galaxy where was alowed only 1vs1 fights.

Maybe peoples should pick such system, maybe low sec.
Can be unwriten rule that ppl dont help each other in fights in This Particular System.

what do u think?


You're in the wrong game, here we don't do instances where you're shielded from everyone else.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#36 - 2016-05-05 23:14:37 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
hi

My dream is to make one system in whole galaxy where was alowed only 1vs1 fights.

Maybe peoples should pick such system, maybe low sec.
Can be unwriten rule that ppl dont help each other in fights in This Particular System.

what do u think?


Spoiler: it will attract the players who laugh at the idea of 1v1s in droves.
Neadayan Drakhon
Heuristic Industrial And Development
AddictClan
#37 - 2016-05-06 01:15:07 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
Cypherous wrote:
CaesarGREG wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP is not going to help you and it's unlikely most other players would be inclined towards fair 1 vs 1.

The only way to do something like you want is to do it yourself. Either host a competition and hope you don't get hot-dropped or make a corp dedicated to honorable dueling and hope you don't get a bunch of morons joining to ruin it for you.

It's a lofty goal. Perhaps even a noble one. But EVE is a sandbox. It's up to you build your little castle and keep everyone else from kicking it down.

Good luck with it.

Mr Epeen Cool


Many Sandbox MMO's have dedicated Arenas to fight 1vs1 most of them have it.


name some


Lineage2, World of Warcraft, ArchAge , Rift , ... google search

would not consider any of those to be sandbox, especially WoW...
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#38 - 2016-05-06 01:23:00 UTC
Oooookay. CaesarGREG has ensconced himself as an unappreciated game design genius who thinks his ruminations as he spins his ship will (if he's taken seriously by those in charge - which never seems to happen) result in the perfect EVE Online. I imagine when he's through here, he'll stop at SWTOR, or FFXIV and offer his services to them.

Then again, he could just be a ringer trying to take the Try Not To Think Award 2016 by storm!
You gotta watch for the Sneaky Petes.

Cool

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2016-05-06 07:42:22 UTC
Actually not a bad idea but making one system strictly 1v1 is probably too much work to implement.

However adding various types of 1v1 Thunderdome Arenas to the game would be easy enough to code, probably even encourage players who don't normally PvP to give it a try. Of course each type would be for a specific hull class. They could even be tied in with the Duel mechanic, just have the Duel request include type of hull class.

2 ships enter, 1 ship leaves.



DMC
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