Warfare & Tactics

You might try pick-up fleets. T1 ships do better in groups than solo. Sometimes they even offer free replacement ships.

Sometimes fleets are advertised in the Militia chat. You can also see fleets in the Fleet Finder tool.

To bring up the Fleet Finder tool, from the Neocom menu in the upper left corner select Social - Fleet.

If you have not seen the "Ship Tree", I would take some time to browse that. It's the square icon on the left, marked with the letter "A" (or is it an arrow). It will give you an idea of what ships you might want to fly, how much they might cost, and how long it will take to train for.

As far as training and ships go, if you want to do solo PVP, focus on depth rather than breadth. For example, train and save for T2/T3/Pirate frigates instead of cruisers/battlecruisers/battleships. I don't think it really matters exactly which branch of the "Ship Tree" you focus on, but remember that training into advanced battleships takes a lot longer than training into advanced frigates or destroyers.

If you want to fight solo, you might try being a little more aggressive and actively look for fights in enemy Plexes instead of waiting for someone to fight you. If you sit and wait you will get people who are confident they can defeat you. If you force the issue you are more likely to catch someone unprepared or asleep.

Op, look at my KB. I have lost garmurs to atrons. Sabre to Nereus.....yes Nereus.

You just need to get your feet wet and stop taking every fight. Taking every fight means you will lose.....a lot.

You really shouldn't be getting podded unless you're in a bubble in 0.0. When you hit structure spam the warp button. You'll get away 99% of the time. Pods warp pretty much instantly. You should find a newbie friendly corp to fly with. It's easier in a fleet and they'll be able to teach you too.


There was never a time like that.

Is anyone actually reading the whole point of the post? It's suggesting a smaller plex for t1 frigs only. Specifically non-faction, so someone with barely any SP at least has a fighting chance vs. bling/links/vastly more SP anyway.

Leave the plex, you say? Same said pirate will hunt for the kill and just run him down at a nearby plex. And lowsec has plenty of hunter-killer type players which will do just that.

It's not an unreasonable suggestion, jeez.

"git gud" is just dumb when we're considering the raw #'s of someone with vastly more SP just wrecking you, regardless of skill. It drives new players away trying to "git gud" but have absolutely no chance over 90% of the time.


+1 to the suggestion, or at least making a new plex EXCLUSIVELY for t1 frigs, not faction. You can't deal with the links though without a change to "on-grid only for boosts" which they're working on....eventually.

There are a lot of great FW tutorials on youtube, including low-sp kestrel and rifter.
click info on ship if you see something on overview or d-scan, check what bonuses that ship has and make a plan how to engage (or not)
check pilot age, how many pilots of same alliance are in local, if enemy has a bonus ship (its like 30-50% boost to tank and dmg mitigation, don't fight linked ships 1v1), killboards are useful to check for traps (if pilot has 0 solo kills for exampls)
try to get pod out.... shortcuts or radial menu allow to warp off in 1 second, way faster than a regular pvp frig can lock a pod. if ur too slow or have too much lag maybe try cruiser, in frig combat each second matters a lot

t1 hull and fit can cost 1m (or 5-10 for full t2 modules) while faction frigs cost 20-70 for the ship itself. And no the ship is not 7 times better, 20-50% ish, if it's properly fit and piloted ofc, which is not always the case.

I'm in a very similar situation as you except i have been in game for a total active time of 9 years and have pretty much maxed ship fitting. drones and ship skills. Over the years i have done the industry, Mission running and trading. I've also spent a lot of time with exploration, and lived in a WH for a couple of months. I like to think i excelled in what i have done with above apart from WH's where you need some PVP experience. So decided to try my hand at PVP in T1 frigates so at least i can get a grasp of it and not have to worry about the loss of isk, I know for a fact i will lose alot of ships and bulked bought Tristan's/Breacher's and Merlin's, with fits so i can hop right back in and go again. Advice on the forums leaned towards R V B or FW to which i opted for.

After 2 weeks in FW and loads and loads of losses and 1 kill (and that was due to him having a non fitted ship in a large plex (Farming LP apparently)) So what you say is so familiar and frustrating how can you learn from what happened??? Its a crazy 20 or so seconds. Unless you fraps it as someone has said +1 to them (I'll try this). Also don't get hooked up in the SP side of things 150 mill SP sub cap pilot here and i cant do shite.

The idea about having novice plex's T1 frigates only, i agree it think needs it. Also I have lost a few ships to 2 or more ships camping inside a plex which is also disappointing. I would like to see a T1 'frigate novice' which can only do 1 on 1's and just rename the current novice 'small' and the other tiers move up a band).

So what's helped me so far????

Reading the forums, if you have the patience to cut past the trolls.

By far the most valuable is setting up your over view, you can install one from a link in-game' sarashawa' i think it is or if you want to understand every aspect of eve like i do i found these invaluable.

Un-phuck your overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcUGwvOHk_Q

Your D-Scan - but your getting to grips with that by the sounds of things.

Doing a runner number of times does help, but this is whats always frustrated me with EVE, to get in to PVP its so difficult if you have 30 mins to an hour of online play time i don't have the time to wait to fleet up or for someone to be online or to scan someone down or to wait for an unsuspecting tragte to come through a gate. I just wanna log on a PEW PEW for what little time i have. From what i have read FW does this and it kinda does which is why i sihgned up but the learning curve is so steep at the beginning and it's not being made easier by faction/pirate frigates and garmur's whipping your ass or multiple enemies on warp in.

If your looking for "safer" more winnable fights try joining RVB.

No podding rule and arranged fights are honoured so you can set up 1v1 t1 frig fights. All the fighting is in Hi-Sec so no nasty pirates.

It makes a good environment to learn the basics.

Never actually closed down.

There was an announcement they would be closing, but some of the leadership took over and its still going now. Lots of lovely explosions! :)

Details about the rules and to join here

http://rvbeve.com/forums/index.php/forum/3-rvb-information-news-rules/

Bittervets forget what it's like to be new to things;
New to the game, new to PvP, new to everything.

95% of their answers are going to consist of "lern2X" or "Google it".

When I was pretty new, I got recruited into some hardcore PvP null-sec corp, and I spent the next 2 weeks sitting in-station, waiting for skills to train up (the queue was 2 months to be able to fly with them). After that, I said "screw it", and flew back to high-sec space.

Check the characters who give you crappy feedback. Either they'll be over 2 years old, or they'll be in some corp that spoon-feeds them everything they need.

First off: There's nothing wrong with hanging around in High-Sec, killing NPC ships. It's going to be quite some time before you can outfit a ship (and have the reflexes/knowledge to use it) to be able to handle the hard stuff. And not the WoW version of a long time (like a month) but more like a few months (or maybe even a year).

Those newbie frigates all cover the basic roles that you'll have later on, so if I were in your shoes, I'd experiment with flying those few T1 frigates, and paying attention to their roles. Skill up into a certain role that interest you. Don't go into tough encounters (or PvP) until you're not only flying a fully T2 equipped T2 ship, but you have the resources/funds to replace it at least twice.

PvP isn't going to be a good experience for you until you're able to survive getting Alpha-Striked by some guy in a battleship.

imho, OPs suggestion to increase PLEX type and add 1 more size type is not good.

in the event of actual defense or seige of a system, the only thing i like the least is reshipping. even if your base of operation is 1 jump away, warping to and back, sorting out ships to everyone, changing links if you are changing tanks. it's kinda tedious.