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[Citadels Release] Capital and Fighter Transition

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EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-04-26 19:34:58 UTC
Silk75 wrote:
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:
"We were planning to refund all isk spent and sp trained in the now defunct Force Auxiliary skills"


so ive been training the FAX skills since they were released (as in, before they announced they were gonna use existing carrier skill) to get a head start, remapped and implanted for max SP/hr and cheekily decided to keep training until the skills were revoked and the SP reimbursed, thinking i could then distribute the copious amounts of SP back into new skills like light fighters and etc...

**** me i guess, right?

sigh


Because you can't read I've made things bolder

Quote:
This will still happen in the coming weeks (Or at the latest by the next release).


well, i planned on putting that SP directly into the new fighter skills and buffing the hangar size one which are not trained at all, so this makes me completly useless post patch...but thanks for trying to be edgy i guess

http://pastebin.com/z0nFzapU
Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#22 - 2016-04-26 19:43:24 UTC
If you looked at the Features & Ideas post you would have known... probably a month or so ago, that the FauX skill was being deprecated due to player feedback.
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-04-26 19:48:29 UTC
Syri Taneka wrote:
If you looked at the Features & Ideas post you would have known... probably a month or so ago, that the FauX skill was being deprecated due to player feedback.


m8 this seems over your head in understanding

http://pastebin.com/z0nFzapU
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#24 - 2016-04-26 19:55:06 UTC
Sphit Ker wrote:
I understand the Fighters skillbook is being split in two. Assume I have Fighters V in the bank, what is to happen to it?

You'll keep Fighters V and it will be a useful skill. To continue using your fighters you'll need to train Light Fighters to 1 though.
Parah Salin McCain
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-04-26 20:02:34 UTC
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:

well, i planned on putting that SP directly into the new fighter skills and buffing the hangar size one which are not trained at all, so this makes me completly useless post patch...but thanks for trying to be edgy i guess


Sort your neck out and shut up. You made a mistake, move on.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#26 - 2016-04-26 20:08:03 UTC
Madlightning wrote:
THANK YOU CCP OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON LOL i been like od i need to drop plexs on like 100 fighters befor the patch or do i rage quit but now i know thank you lolSmile

You realize, your still going to need to drop a lot of isk on fighters right?

Current fighters will become T1 "whatever" light fighters - Which will only be useful to turn into T2's as T1's aren't worth spit to actually use.

This change has been nicely configured to get carrier and super pilots to open their wallets (isk or plex depending on your play style and in game wealth) and spend, spend, spend.
Rough estimate - 6 T1 light fighters are being exchanged at +-20 mil. 6 T2 light fighters will run you close to 40 mil; or 60 mil for a squad of 9.


Q; What happens to excess fighters if the carrier has more than 14 current fighters (they won't fit in anything other than a max skilled Thanatos) , will they get moved to other hangars (if they aren't also full)? Or will the new fighter management bays just be overloaded, so you can't move or use the ship until excess fighters are removed?

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Maria Kitiare
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#27 - 2016-04-26 20:09:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Maria Kitiare
CCP Lebowski wrote:

Drones in Carriers/Supercarriers
As drones can no longer be used by these ships, we need to move them to an appropriate location.
  • For character-owned ships, this will be the hangar bay of their home-station as listed on the character sheet.
  • For corporation-owned ships, this will be the corporate HQ
  • For ships owned by neither a character nor a corporation (such as ships in a contract) we'll put them in the ship's main cargo hold, and then let the new owner sort it out when he gets the ship.


Are carriers floating in space considered character-owned, corporation-owned or without owner?

Is it based on last pilot in the ship, and if ejected from an SMA, would that then be corp-owned?
Moss VI
Black Flag Exploration
#28 - 2016-04-26 20:19:18 UTC
Thanks CCP! Looking forward to another paperweight in my hanger. What happens to Gecko?
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2016-04-26 20:23:18 UTC
Parah Salin McCain wrote:
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:

well, i planned on putting that SP directly into the new fighter skills and buffing the hangar size one which are not trained at all, so this makes me completly useless post patch...but thanks for trying to be edgy i guess


Sort your neck out and shut up. You made a mistake, move on.


was responding to someone else duder....

http://pastebin.com/z0nFzapU
Alleron Shazih
Offshore Tax Haven Co.
#30 - 2016-04-26 20:37:20 UTC
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:
Silk75 wrote:
EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:
"We were planning to refund all isk spent and sp trained in the now defunct Force Auxiliary skills"


so ive been training the FAX skills since they were released (as in, before they announced they were gonna use existing carrier skill) to get a head start, remapped and implanted for max SP/hr and cheekily decided to keep training until the skills were revoked and the SP reimbursed, thinking i could then distribute the copious amounts of SP back into new skills like light fighters and etc...

**** me i guess, right?

sigh


Because you can't read I've made things bolder

Quote:
This will still happen in the coming weeks (Or at the latest by the next release).


well, i planned on putting that SP directly into the new fighter skills and buffing the hangar size one which are not trained at all, so this makes me completly useless post patch...but thanks for trying to be edgy i guess


So you intentionally gamed the system and tried to exploit a loophole to earn more free skillpoints and you want CCP to address your needs when it turns out that won't work exactly as planned? Wow.
Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#31 - 2016-04-26 21:07:49 UTC
Tomorrow will be the New Eden definition of the C-F in CFC.

The popcorn is in the microwave

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Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#32 - 2016-04-26 21:11:39 UTC
Moss VI wrote:
Thanks CCP! Looking forward to another paperweight in my hanger. What happens to Gecko?

You sell those to the Rattlesnake pilots.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#33 - 2016-04-26 21:49:24 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Tomorrow will be the New Eden definition of the C-F in CFC.

The popcorn is in the microwave

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I think retreating to hold less space is probably a good idea with citadels. Wont these things turn systems into cities?

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Imustbecomfused
Illicit Expo
#34 - 2016-04-26 22:02:14 UTC
CCP Lebowski wrote:
Greetings Capital pilots!

Force Auxiliary Skills
We were planning to refund all isk spent and sp trained in the now defunct Force Auxiliary skills along with this conversion.

Fly safe!



Did I miss something?

Glornak Ironspawn
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#35 - 2016-04-26 22:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Glornak Ironspawn
Seems nobody here played on the test server if they think this is a nerf to carriers. The new fighters do MORE damage collectively and can apply it to smaller ships. Including the utility of the new support fighters that can ECM, web and point. The ECMs most importantly put carriers above dreads (and supers if your lucky) in a hitting match. Other things like the 5km lock range, general fighter controls allow you to set orbit distance of the fighters, emergency hull energiser allows you to survive drive by DDs, mids and lows are free due to support fighters. The list can go on.

All in all this is a buff to carriers.
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#36 - 2016-04-26 22:47:19 UTC
Imustbecomfused wrote:
CCP Lebowski wrote:
Greetings Capital pilots!

Force Auxiliary Skills
We were planning to refund all isk spent and sp trained in the now defunct Force Auxiliary skills along with this conversion.

Fly safe!



Did I miss something?


Yes, you missed where he said
CCP Lebowski wrote:
However we have encountered some complications that mean that we do not feel confident delivering this tomorrow. This will still happen in the coming weeks (Or at the latest by the next release). Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause!


The Force Auxiliary skills were abandoned a week or so after they were seeded in favor of using the existing carrier skills.
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2016-04-26 22:51:03 UTC
Quote:
This involves many moving pieces so to make the transition as smooth as possible we're making this thread to detail what you can expect to find when you log in after tomorrow's downtime.

Is this not the kind of change that warrants e-mails, eve-mails, and devblogs with huge block letters well ahead of time?
Martin Gregor
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2016-04-26 23:49:56 UTC
As you did not mention this:
- What happens to fighters in sellorders and what happens to buyorders ? Are they going to be multiplied as well?
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#39 - 2016-04-27 00:11:14 UTC
Martin Gregor wrote:
As you did not mention this:
- What happens to fighters in sellorders and what happens to buyorders ? Are they going to be multiplied as well?

They should all be cancelled and fees refunded as the item your currently selling will no longer exist. It will have been transformed into a cheaper replica of itself.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Hasslnd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2016-04-27 00:29:17 UTC
So.... If I have some random fighters/bombers in jita they will just get multiplied then.