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No Market for Medium Citadel.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#41 - 2016-04-27 13:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cypherous
Dracvlad wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Cypherous wrote:
To be fair the medium citadel pretty much is a dockable POS at this point, it provides you with the barebones services and a place to sit without getting blown up, it lets you store your personal effects and a change of clothes, when they remove POS at the end of the year the medium citadel is going to be your POS so i would start getting used to it

Thing is you don't make your own sandbox, you participate in the large sandbox within the rules of said sandbox, i mean sure you might not like the fact that your POS sized object cannot be the centre of a market hub, but at the end of the day it was never designed to be, thats the job of the large/xl citadels, thing is, outside of null you're unlikely to ever set up your own market hub as traffic will still be drawn in to the super hubs like jita, i mean there will be a lot of citadels being put up in a couple of weeks but most of them aren't going to do a lot :P


Yeah, exactly. What I want to do with the citadels isn't going to be a lot. It just can't justify spending :tenbil: on it. There's a manual workaround to the issue, but that's mechanically the same as what I have to do with a POS right now. Tl;dr there's no reason to use the new structures for me. They just don't come with enough features at the right sizes.


Well said, you totally get it, I am so disappointed with CCP.

You know I cannot understand all these people who keep defining Medium Citadels as a POS, its a small outpost, this confuses them terribly so that they come out with total pap like Cypherous, shall I put it in CAPITALS for him so he gets it:

IT'S AN OUTPOST!!!!!!


An outpost where you can't build, research and doesn't have any corp hangars, a POS has more features at this point so you're correct a medium is not a POS, its actually less than a POS
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#42 - 2016-04-27 13:27:15 UTC
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
7-10 bil is approximately the price of a jump freighter. Just about every tom, **** and harry has a jf (or at least the serious industry types have one). If you cant afford a jf then you really shouldnt be able to setup something that is the equivalent of an outpost.


What sort of a comparison is that, Eve forums are just daft at times.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#43 - 2016-04-27 13:28:06 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Cypherous wrote:
To be fair the medium citadel pretty much is a dockable POS at this point, it provides you with the barebones services and a place to sit without getting blown up, it lets you store your personal effects and a change of clothes, when they remove POS at the end of the year the medium citadel is going to be your POS so i would start getting used to it

Thing is you don't make your own sandbox, you participate in the large sandbox within the rules of said sandbox, i mean sure you might not like the fact that your POS sized object cannot be the centre of a market hub, but at the end of the day it was never designed to be, thats the job of the large/xl citadels, thing is, outside of null you're unlikely to ever set up your own market hub as traffic will still be drawn in to the super hubs like jita, i mean there will be a lot of citadels being put up in a couple of weeks but most of them aren't going to do a lot :P


Yeah, exactly. What I want to do with the citadels isn't going to be a lot. It just can't justify spending :tenbil: on it. There's a manual workaround to the issue, but that's mechanically the same as what I have to do with a POS right now. Tl;dr there's no reason to use the new structures for me. They just don't come with enough features at the right sizes.


Well said, you totally get it, I am so disappointed with CCP.

You know I cannot understand all these people who keep defining Medium Citadels as a POS, its a small outpost, this confuses them terribly so that they come out with total pap like Cypherous, shall I put it in CAPITALS for him so he gets it:

IT'S AN OUTPOST!!!!!!


An outpost where you can't build, research and doesn't have any corp hangars, a POS has more features at this point so you're correct a medium is not a POS, its actually less than a POS


Clone bay anyone...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#44 - 2016-04-27 13:42:40 UTC
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
7-10 bil is approximately the price of a jump freighter. Just about every tom, **** and harry has a jf (or at least the serious industry types have one). If you cant afford a jf then you really shouldnt be able to setup something that is the equivalent of an outpost.


7-10b for the hull only, then you have to fit it.
Anke Eyrou
Hades Sisters
#45 - 2016-04-27 14:40:27 UTC
Jhon Kirk wrote:
Well this morning i watched the Stream from Fanfest 2016, and it was shared that Medium Citadels will no be able to fit the market Module. I agree with majority of this but for a smaller corp or group that causally plays to come up with 7 - 10 billion isk to afford the Large Citadel is to me a bit rough. To do this i would say maybe make a module that allows a limited Market in the Medium so we can actuall make a cash flow to be able to upgrade to a large. Anyone have any thoughts on this?


What makes it worse is the BPO required to build one has a requirement for 4 market modules to be included in the build component list, IIRC!

I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#46 - 2016-04-27 14:41:46 UTC
Anke Eyrou wrote:
Jhon Kirk wrote:
Well this morning i watched the Stream from Fanfest 2016, and it was shared that Medium Citadels will no be able to fit the market Module. I agree with majority of this but for a smaller corp or group that causally plays to come up with 7 - 10 billion isk to afford the Large Citadel is to me a bit rough. To do this i would say maybe make a module that allows a limited Market in the Medium so we can actuall make a cash flow to be able to upgrade to a large. Anyone have any thoughts on this?


What makes it worse is the BPO required to build one has a requirement for 4 market modules to be included in the build component list, IIRC!


ROFL...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
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