These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Science & Industry

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Mass Manufacturing

Author
Delta Shahni
Stardrive Enterprises
#1 - 2016-04-23 08:37:31 UTC
I have been manufacturing in Eve for years current toons and former toons and generally always made a profit, the method I currently use is very unstructured and gives me peaks and troughs and can be quite time consuming.

I am looking at trying to generate routine production that allows me to understand the real profit and minimise the time spent on it.

I am based 8 jumps from Jita and use 4 toons to do this, I have the capability to build all T1 & T2 items, I use a dedicated corp to facilitate the control and tend to use hangars and wallets for product segregation.

Does anyone have a method they could share with me to structure this, spreadsheet, application or anything in between? I am currently using Isk Per Hour (IPH) work out profitability but this is no longer being fully supported

Any help that can be offered is appreciated.

G
Delta Shahni
Stardrive Enterprises
#2 - 2016-04-23 08:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Delta Shahni
.
Dante Graydon
Tannhauser C-Beam
#3 - 2016-04-23 12:26:53 UTC
Have you looked at the app, ISK per Hour, that may help you in determining what is profitable.
Mad Vemane
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-04-23 14:34:02 UTC
Dante Graydon wrote:
Have you looked at the app, ISK per Hour, that may help you in determining what is profitable.

Did you even read what he wrote?

As for organizing your industry, I personnaly sat down and listed all the bpos I wanted to keep producing from woth their minerals requirement for a day worth of runs. Shove everything in a spreasheet to get my total use of minerals/day which helps a lot with organization

One way to be sure I keep making profit on items is to put them up at peek price in charts. Can take a while to sell and might not be the best depending on your budget.

If you really want a per item profit, it might get on the complicated side unless you buy only minerals. You could import eve central's data to get the current production price vs sell price, but that won't include taxes, broker's fee and manufacturing taxes like eveIPH does.
Kyra Lee
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-04-24 07:24:17 UTC
IPH is still supported but it will be sunsetting soon. Eve-Industry works in a similar fashion as IPH and as far as I know is still being supported. Another one that works decently is Eve-Cost. I think it still pulls its data from eve central and may not be updated.
Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
#6 - 2016-04-24 15:12:20 UTC
In my case I started with a Spreadsheet that calculated the cost of raw materials and just kept adding formulas to it. After a couple of years (!), it has ended up with the same answers as the ISK per Hour app, which I still use as a check for typing errors. I'm sorry to hear it's on its way out.

There isn't really any alternative to your own Spreadsheet that I've come across, once done it's a doddle to just press a couple of buttons to update and then do as you're told. Buy Noxium! Manufacture Caracals! Sell Drakes!

I could say more but wait - you sell at Jita? A rival Corp! Shocked
Fat Buddah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-04-25 04:24:31 UTC
What are you looking for?

If you are looking for a tool to assist you in decision making, IPH is good enough. The project has been taken over by some other nice dude so it will not fade.

If you are looking for a tool to keep track of your industry related transactions and productions, schedules, raw material stock & WIP tracking, planning, etc, then it is a different story. I haven't yet seen a 3rd party tool that offers a comprehensive solution for such. Maybe you could try fiddling with some open source ERP stuff?
Kimimaro Yoga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-04-25 09:54:05 UTC
Easy approach: Just sell into peaks. Downside: takes too damn long to roll inventory.

Slightly more work: Spend lots of time pressing buttons at http://eve-industry.org/calc/ to see what's good money and what's not so good. Better results, but high effort.

High quality approach: Build your own spreadsheet with one page that has values for minerals and such, and another page that does the various multiplying and adding bits to spit out a price for finished product. It's possible to do a decent spreadsheet with rather limited knowledge of how the sheets work, and possible to essentially duplicate IPH if you get into it. Obviously more work up front, but the results are worth it.

Also I suggest doing a bit of selling into peaks in any case. Put up enough of your stock at the current sell price to replace your materials, then put up the last 15% or whatever at a higher price. That way you always have enough to keep building, and get more profit when possible. Some days prices just go south though, don't build if there's no money in it.

Now recruiting: http://dogfacedesign.com/index.php/Recruiting-Posters/recruiting-poster-patr3

Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
#9 - 2016-04-25 11:21:42 UTC
Fat Buddah wrote:
What are you looking for?

If you are looking for a tool to assist you in decision making, IPH is good enough. The project has been taken over by some other nice dude so it will not fade.

Ah, I just read the end of the IPH thread and yes, new and enthusiastic curator. Excellent!