Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Regardless of whether you think ecm is balanced or not, most people can agree that it is not good game design. It is all or nothing both for the aggressor and for the victim. Not to mention it provides a gtfo option in a game where getting fights and catching someone can be a time and skill intensive activity.
My proposed solution : leave the chance based mechanic. But instead of breaking targets and preventing 99% of fits from functioning at all, make it so the pilot cannot activate or deactivate any modules while jammed. Maybe even lock out navigation commands, like orbit and manual piloting. All target locks remain and any running modules (scram, guns, ect) continue to function.

What this will do : ecm will come in line with other ewar. It will be incredible in certain situations and tactically ineffective in others. That frig that set a close orbit and scrammed you won't care of you jam him, just like a missile or nuet boat ignores tracking disruptors or passive fits ignore nuets. But locking someones guns prevents primary switching, maybe locks them out of their cap booster, and may allow kiting ships to pull range. Jams would also prevent targets warping away (unless the command to warp was already sent before jam), activating an mjd, or remote repping. Overall, it will increase the number of fights and make for more interesting tactical choices then "decloak, spam Jams, hope they succeed or I die in a fire."

What does the community think?

so you want to make some one a sitting target for getting jammed.

ECM is already only effective in certain situations, if you don't use the right jammer you don't jam that target, and multispec jammers have less effectiveness and higher drawbacks as is.

Disabling is not ecm, that would be hacking to cause a system lock out.

overall your idea to drop jamming down only increase its effectiveness in another way, stopping cap boosters, remote repping to the one being jammed, stoping warp/mjd really?

ECM is used in either 1 of 2 ways

you jam your target and run

or

you jam your target and keep firing

I overcame a whole corporation using jams, the mechanics are there for different ways so its not that OP.

the way it sounds is you want to use all jammers in your mids and no tackle...

Sorry, I guess that wasn't totally clear. It would still be a chance based effect. Still based on sensor type and strength. The only difference would be instead of locking a shop from doing anything out only locks it from changing what it is already doing. And have it effect navigation may be too much, so that was optional.

ECM need full rework.
Not 100% chance of effect in optimal range is just stupid and making the game less consistent. Nothing works like that in eve - every other module get 100% chance on optimal range.

Effect of ecm is worst possible solution for the whole game: almost everything in eve made about locking target (any ewar, disruptors, turrets, neuts, etc.). You cant play around it at all.

So ecm cant be changed a bit, it should be totally reworked. The only cure for it is just to remove ecm mechanics completely and make something else for caldari.

Fit falcon for full ECM of one type.

Setup bait alt in the most stupid ship type like a rookie ship on gate.

Wait for idiot of the right race to kill your "useless" alt.

Uncloak and jam.

Kill poor guy while he can't even try to follow you of jump a gate after his weapon timer is over.

If your jam fails, cloak since he obviously can't have you locked yet.

Now that would really make the game a whole lot more fun when engaging a falcon.

I'm not sure people are reading the idea completely here. This would be strictly less effective than ecm as it is now. You could still fight, lock people ect. You just couldn't activate modules while jammed. So you could lock that cloaky Falcon to prevent a recloak. As it is now the Falcon can recloak the moment it hits one jam. Also the OP clearly stated that having the module effect the ability to warp or jump may be over powered, and it is. So just have it lock out modules.you can still navigate ,lock people ,ect, you just can't hit your modules while jammed. Much more interesting than the current mechanic anyway.