Intergalactic Summit

A little bit of peace and quiet never hurts.

If you got this paper it doesn't mean you will always be able to evade retribution.

I am not single.

Besides, I'd like to remind you, that this discussion is about ARC and their lies, but not about Veikitamo.

I dont care about your relationship status. If this thread is about ARC, then it's not the place to address offences to your "honor", and your only contributing to the further derailment of the topic. As for ARC, they are too well known and respected for their actions for your opinion to be of any harm. It's kind of like an ant trying to shame a mountian. I doubt the mountian cares and it gets the ant nowhere.

Gutter Press is the finest journalistic outlet in New Eden.

Now that I'm back from Dam-Torsad, I suppose I need to catch up.

First - Aria, Tyrel - thank you.


My point? You would have to give me something specific to address first. I don't see you going into detail about your theory. I just see you saying that you only took fifteen minutes to come up with it, and don't have any empirical evidence or testing results to inform its accuracy or validity. And that because ARC's research, which has involved extensive testing and observation both in the lab and in the field, does not match your unpublished, untested, unexpounded-upon theory, it's wrong? You're not giving me or anyone else much of anything to address.

I was not being contrarian (though I suspect you'll use those five words as an excuse to say I am being so), and I'm certainly not the one doing any screaming or stamping of feet in this thread. That task appears reserved for the person who posted immediately following you. I responded civilly to an accusation that I have no idea what I'm talking about simply because our research, backed up with empirical evidence and testing in the field, does not match your napkin-back theorizing - the hostility here is entirely on your end alone, and frankly, I'm not quite sure where it comes from, since I've never spoken to you before.

Are the two cases similar, between the Drifters and Nation? Perhaps a bit. But beyond sending hostile forces into New Eden from bases of operation in Anoikis, there doesn't seem to be a lot in common.

Examination of the remnants of Sansha fleets in Anoikis have indicated that they have been mucking around with Talocan technology. It is assumed that this is where they got their wormhole generation technology from, but it doesn't appear to have been refined much beyond the initial reverse-engineering - it's not particularly accurate, and they don't seem to be able to sustain more than seven targets at once.

The Drifters, on the other hand, are opening wormholes, approximately a hundred at a time, into a very, very specific set of systems that all have one thing in common: Jove Observatories. Alternatively, given the readings given by scanning these wormholes, it is something in those systems, perhaps even the observatories themselves, opening a hundred wormholes into five specific systems at a time - the standardized 'K162' designation seems consistently connected to the side of the wormhole that is inside the target Hive system. Regardless of the direction, this speaks to a far more sophisticated mechanism than whatever it is that the Sansha are using. There are approximately one thousand of these Observatories (1,019 at last count). Each Hive system has, at any given time, connections to about twenty systems that contain an Observatory. Sometimes those systems will have connections to other Hives. Sometimes - albeit rarely - a Hive will even have multiple connections to the same system.

But the systems available to "choose" from on either side of the transit do not change. It will always be a system with an Observatory in it on the New Eden side, and one of the five Hives on the Anoikis side. Even if the Drifters' methods are based on Talocan technology, they are highly refined in comparison, and given appearance and anatomy (as verified by autopsies), in addition to their apparent interest in the old Jove observatories and their wormholes only opening in those systems, I would personally surmise that their technology is Jovian in nature, or at least derived from it. It could be a hybrid of both - however, we simply don't have enough evidence to say one way or another the source or origins of their wormhole generation tech.

My sole objections to your theories are that you clearly have not actually gone to the trouble of testing your hypothesis, and that it's almost certain that you do not even have access to the materials you'd need to test that hypothesis with.

Now, if you feel like coming along on an upcoming fleet operation, that could be discussed. And you'd even get a sample element for your trouble. But until then, going and claiming that I'm being contrarian or don't know what I'm talking about just because the reports I've been forwarded from ARC's research teams - reports I am not responsible for writing - don't support your untested pet theories, isn't going to do much for you except make you look petty.

... isn't even really outraged, and should be ignored!

One of these ARC spokepersons have been lying in this exact thread about me. It has been explained in full here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6449236#post6449236

As for derailment, it was again ARC undertaking: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6447220#post6447220

Honestly, Vero, at this point I sort of take Kim's obsession with me and ARC as a compliment.

We're obviously doing something right if we're pissing her off this thoroughly.

"Ill sprites wander were they are dwelled upon"?