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*95% effectiveness*
"USELESS!"

This is the wrong change in my opinion. You don't mess up 95% of the usage to fix a potential problem with the other 5%. Mission running in Marauders has already been nerfed income wise with effects of the salvage rebalance. I'll be honest my first thought for defending citadels was just to plonk a vargur on the undock but correct me if I am wrong here Fozzie but wouldn't an easy counter to that just be a command destroyer if one were to allow it to catch a bastion enabled ship - it's not like you could then scram a bastion enabled ship as things currently stand to prevent that.

Just seems the wrong solution to the problem. Marauders is a massive train for little pay off already and even less of one now. The thing is with some missions you aren't just facing the one damp or tracking disruptor you are facing loads. I am not seeing Marauders dominating PVP - I am seeing an awful lot of pirate battleships though. So why nerf the longer train to the point of uselessness compared with the easier option.

Let me rephrase that to a simple question: What role do you envisage for marauders with this change.

Without good salvage - they won't excel at making ISK from missions - so tractor bonus is wasted
Without EW immunity - they'll get swamped by NPCs and won't excel at missions - so the EW immunity bonus is wasted
Without massive changes - they won't excel at PVP

Incursions - pirate battleship is best
Level 4 Missions - pirate battleship is best
Level 3 Missions - pirate battleship is best
Small gang PVP - pirate battleship is best, yep some people have used Marauders but really it's niche and because they could, you'd be well shocked if they didn't get a few nice kills at that price point. After insurance you'd be better off with a carrier.
Large scale PVP - pirate battleship fleets have doctrines, never seen a marauder one!
Wormholes - Marauders are used.

Is that the intention that Marauders are wormhole ships?

I guess I am wondering why this change has been brought about - why was it deemed needed. It can't be from a missions running and incursion point of view because the marauder is the lesser choice there. So I can only think it's from a citadel defence point of view with the timing etc. To which I'd say that I would rather the answer be something more interesting. An Lachesis damping down a golem or vargur so they can't target them effectively to stop entosis is an attritional tactic I thought the intention was to remove from the game but allowing command destroyers to scoop bastioned marauders - well that pilot would be a hero when they go that job done and that's what EVE is about at the end of the day - stories derived from players doing things with arguably seemingly mundane mechanics. What would you rather talk about - you remember that time I damped that vargur down 10km so he couldn't target us - or - remember that time I spiralled in and scooped that golem off the undock?

I've loved the changes of recent times and the push to make the game accessible for all by using smaller ships effectively but there has to be something to aim for and when you get there then there needs to be tangible benefits.

Anyway keep up the good work even if I don't agree with this one! Marauders need some love tbh not another nerf.

Personally I really like that the total ewar immunity is going away (no one should be TOTALLY ewar immune), and I hope this is a trend that will continue. However, it does need a little tweaking in regards to NPC's. Either the current NPC mechanic is bypassing this 5% vulnerability or its too easy to get a successful hit. A few thoughts on ways to improve this although it would be harder to impliment:

ECM - increase sensor strength by a large amount (+250-350%) when in bastion, optionally, each successful jam could reduce the number of max targets by 1. Tweak as necessary to find good user balance in missions/game play.

Target Painters/Sensor Damps / Tracking Disruption: Reduce their effectiveness while in bastion mode. Two options could be to (a) reduce the effectiveness of each one by a flat % (say 75%) and include stacking penalties or (b) utilize stacking penalties in your favor by artificially inflating the number of modules active when calculating the stacking penalty. For instance, with Marauder 3 the game would give the first ewar module applied the effective stacking penalty equivalent to the 4th such module to be applied. This means large numbers of ewar would still have an effect but at most you would only lose ~15-20% effectiveness.

Scrams/Webs - Bastion module gives large warp strength bonus/breaks module lock on deactivation (forcing scram/disruptor reactivation).

I also feel that similar changes could be made to other ships that are currently ewar immune (triage/siege/supers). Yes these larger ships should be harder to counter but large coordinated efforts by sub-capitals should have some effect.

Remove immobility, activation of bastion renders your warp engines inoperative but you can move.

Give us our vargur back no minmatar ship should be immobile brick in space roll back speed and mass nerf to it.

Give vargur an golem range webs roll back Kronos pali webs.

Make em more than wh solo farming self tackled objects in space for game play sake.

Not if it cant leave, i do however see the bastion bonus getting slapped hard for it though,
probaby harder than anyone would like i.e. "ccpplzchangeitback" hard.
Carefull what you ask for.

And this is why moving marauders wouldn't be OP.
They can be webbed and they can be scrammed through Bastion already with the change, so they wouldn't be immune to tackle.

A good point brought up here, I hope someone from the dev team gives this a think over.

A (t1) scrambler does 1 'damage' to warp core strength.

As long as you have more than 0, you can warp. 5% of 1 is 0.05 damage, so you have 0.95 left and can warp :)

Not until Citadel ;)

Look, I'll be the one to say it: the bastion mode probably need tweaking. But this isn't it. The bastion mode doesn't work on two of the four Marauders. I wasn't going to bring this up because the Devs have much more important things on their plate. But if you have time to come over here and kick Marauder pilots in the shins, then you have time to rework bastion so it fully serves all four Marauders.