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Why isnt The Mittani Banned?

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Sister MaryElephant
Stellar Conundrum
#21 - 2016-04-12 10:16:04 UTC
fofofofofofofofofofofofo
~~~FLORIDA LAW~~~
fofofofofofofofofofofofo

Ten years of this game and the stupid just keeps on giving Big smile

This totally kills the LV dude that was going to sue over JV1V Lol
Jacques d'Orleans
#22 - 2016-04-12 10:18:26 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:

Didn't he get banned from the CSM for leaking confidential stuff to his alliance before it was released or something along those lines?


No, he was banned for his Fanfest 2012 alliance panel, Mitler included a section in his presentation about how he wanted some guy to commit suicide, and was egging ppl on to harass the guy and apparently try to make it happen.

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-04-12 10:23:10 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Drago Shouna wrote:

Didn't he get banned from the CSM for leaking confidential stuff to his alliance before it was released or something along those lines?


No, he was banned for his Fanfest 2012 alliance panel, Mitler included a section in his presentation about how he wanted some guy to commit suicide, and was egging ppl on to harass the guy and apparently try to make it happen.


thats a really **** thing to say Shocked

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#24 - 2016-04-12 10:24:03 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
oh if it was on reddit it must be true What?
actual logs bro
I've got logs too:

(08:55:43 AM) lilol_me: i automatically believe everything on reddit is true
(08:55:48 AM) lilol_me: aren't i amazing?


The reality is that if he's actually done something against the rules and CCP have proof of it, he'll probably get banned, but most of what is posted on reddit is complete and utter bull, which is why it's funny when people accuse Mittani of spinning.

Your overlords failed to defend you, your alliance is in tatters (and, even worse, in Outer Ring), your space is now held by your enemies and still you faithfully toe the party line. I pity you. You are obviously intoxicated by the koolaid.

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#25 - 2016-04-12 10:25:08 UTC
patience dude, he will be, i hope.

when CCP Manifest confirms the email's authenticity, i'm sure CCP won't just let this pass. together with the s2pid article tmc published, CCP's legal department should be looking and searching for something to slap mittani's smug face and i hope some lawsuits too.

i can't actually believe somebody is capable like that, over a video game? i would actually understand if Manifest punches mittani's face in fanfest for breaking his trust and calling him an idiot after dealing with him professionally.

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Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-04-12 10:28:42 UTC
Mittani is burning down his empire!

If you pull a stunt like this you have just 2 choices: win or go down. If you can't put on enough pressure to win you will loose big time!

1. CCP can't change the background or the name any more even if they decide that it's the worst one ever made. Else they would look like bending knee to some player corp = nogo
2. He posted his threats and his internal conversation with CCP. So who at CCP will trust him again? No one. He just burned his connection to CCP.

Desperate measures are a sign that you loose your ability to think clearly. He got, and will get, nothing and lost all connection to CCP with one post.

Just remember: this is a game and don't fly, or rule, something you can't afford to loose.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-04-12 10:30:49 UTC
double post
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#28 - 2016-04-12 10:36:30 UTC
Sister MaryElephant wrote:
fofofofofofofofofofofofo
~~~FLORIDA LAW~~~
fofofofofofofofofofofofo

Ten years of this game and the stupid just keeps on giving Big smile

This totally kills the LV dude that was going to sue over JV1V Lol
Florida law or not (though the arguments are convincing and I'm yet to see any evidence supported counterpoints), sites like IWI are bad for the game. They scam, they shill and they most definitely RMT. Before you go all hurf blurf about how I'm just mad that IWI is blowing their isk paying for bad mercs, go back and check my posting history and you'll see this was my opinion long before this war was even hinted at.

Zappity wrote:
Your overlords failed to defend you, your alliance is in tatters (and, even worse, in Outer Ring), your space is now held by your enemies and still you faithfully toe the party line. I pity you. You are obviously intoxicated by the koolaid.
Lol, overly dramatic, 2/10. You should really try taking some independence and going and looking at what both sides are saying and verify it yourself. You'll find that there's a log more spin coming from the reddit crew than the Imperium side. Honestly, don;t take my word for it, go and verify facts for yourself. Telling me I'm drinking the koolaid while you blindly follow propaganda is beyond funny.

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Arya Ikahrus
#29 - 2016-04-12 10:40:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Ikahrus
dor amwar wrote:
the mittani does not need to login to control things, i don't even think he subs any more. not a thing ccp can do besides control ccp communications with him, and you will never hear of those.


They could theoretically remove all director roles from Goonswarm, leave the corps and alliance dead in the water and trap all the assets.

They probably won't of course, but Mittani is far from untouchable. It's CCPs game after all.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#30 - 2016-04-12 10:42:21 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
i can't actually believe somebody is capable like that, over a video game? i would actually understand if Manifest punches mittani's face in fanfest for breaking his trust and calling him an idiot after dealing with him professionally.
Why it it that you seem to have such a problem here about it being over a video game, yet you seem to have no problem when people get pictures and identities of Sion and Mittani - that is the players, not the characters - and repeatedly insult and attack them out of game? That's a legitimate question.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#31 - 2016-04-12 10:53:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Lucas Kell wrote:
Lol, overly dramatic, 2/10. You should really try taking some independence and going and looking at what both sides are saying and verify it yourself. You'll find that there's a log more spin coming from the reddit crew than the Imperium side. Honestly, don;t take my word for it, go and verify facts for yourself. Telling me I'm drinking the koolaid while you blindly follow propaganda is beyond funny.

So what do you think of the Florida article? I guess the MBC is fighting in the wrong place, namely in game.

And I have had a good look around - O1Y is quite delightful, a very nice staging system.

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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
#32 - 2016-04-12 10:57:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron Honk
Lucas Kell wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
oh if it was on reddit it must be true What?
actual logs bro
I've got logs too:

(08:55:43 AM) lilol_me: i automatically believe everything on reddit is true
(08:55:48 AM) lilol_me: aren't i amazing?


The reality is that if he's actually done something against the rules and CCP have proof of it, he'll probably get banned, but most of what is posted on reddit is complete and utter bull, which is why it's funny when people accuse Mittani of spinning.


It doesn't matter if we know these leak are real, do we ? I bet CCP will be able to confirm internally if the leak is real or not because of the mail included.

Meanwhile it's not really useful to go on a witch hunt, just let CCP deal with this ****.
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2016-04-12 10:58:01 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
i can't actually believe somebody is capable like that, over a video game? i would actually understand if Manifest punches mittani's face in fanfest for breaking his trust and calling him an idiot after dealing with him professionally.
Why it it that you seem to have such a problem here about it being over a video game, yet you seem to have no problem when people get pictures and identities of Sion and Mittani - that is the players, not the characters - and repeatedly insult and attack them out of game? That's a legitimate question.


You have no idea how much I'm enjoying SMA's failcascade.


Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#34 - 2016-04-12 10:59:09 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I've got logs too:

(08:55:43 AM) lilol_me: i automatically believe everything on reddit is true
(08:55:48 AM) lilol_me: aren't i amazing?


The reality is that if he's actually done something against the rules and CCP have proof of it, he'll probably get banned, but most of what is posted on reddit is complete and utter bull, which is why it's funny when people accuse Mittani of spinning.

You do realise that Mittani actually validated the authenticity of the logs when he tried to explain them away, don't you?

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#35 - 2016-04-12 11:01:29 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
i can't actually believe somebody is capable like that, over a video game? i would actually understand if Manifest punches mittani's face in fanfest for breaking his trust and calling him an idiot after dealing with him professionally.
Why it it that you seem to have such a problem here about it being over a video game, yet you seem to have no problem when people get pictures and identities of Sion and Mittani - that is the players, not the characters - and repeatedly insult and attack them out of game? That's a legitimate question.


they openly and willingly revealed themselves to public, nobody "spied" to uncover their true identities. they exposed themselves, that's price for wanting to be a "celebrity". Both of them made presentations, remember?

and it's not attacking them, it's more like retaliation. with all thier arrogance, manipulation, disrespect, and general as$hattery, thank god that they're still whole. as ive said, it's ok if just RPing, i get that, but when they started to attack people out of game, what do you expect really? Straight

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#36 - 2016-04-12 11:08:09 UTC
Zappity wrote:
So what do you think of the Florida article? I guess the MBC is fighting in the wrong place, namely in game.
I think that it raises some legitimate questions and I've not seen an evidence supported counter argument. The impact on CCP I would say is heavily inflated, but outside of that it's hard to claim that nothing of value is being gambled when the path to converting ISK to cash is so short.

Zappity wrote:
And I have had a good look around - O1Y is quite delightful, a very nice staging system.
Indeed it is, enjoy.

Aaron Honk wrote:
It doesn't matter if we know these leak are real, do we ? I bet CCP will be able to confirm internally if the leak is real or not because of the mail included.

Meanwhile it's not really useful to go on a witch hunt, just let CCP deal with this ****.
So basically what I said then?

Speedkermit Damo wrote:
You have no idea how much I'm enjoying SMA's failcascade.
Hopefully a lot, and I'm glad to be part of your entertainment. You realise we'll still be there at the end of it though, yes? I think we're still a little bigger than when I joined SMA, so as of yet I'm not particularly worried.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#37 - 2016-04-12 11:16:01 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
they openly and willingly revealed themselves to public, nobody "spied" to uncover their true identities. they exposed themselves, that's price for wanting to be a "celebrity". Both of them made presentations, remember?

and it's not attacking them, it's more like retaliation. with all thier arrogance, manipulation, disrespect, and general as$hattery, thank god that they're still whole. as ive said, it's ok if just RPing, i get that, but when they started to attack people out of game, what do you expect really? Straight
Openly revealing information or not, people aren't attacking the characters, they're attacking the players. It's out of game. You can call it retaliation if it makes you feel better - though retaliating for someone disrespecting you in game being out of game attacks still seems pretty bad to me - but at the end of the day it's people taking the game too seriously and attacking players personally. If the same thing were to be done to one of the other "celebrities", on this scale people would be demanding CCP take action on out of game harassment, but because it's Mittani, somehow it's OK.

Zappity wrote:
You do realise that Mittani actually validated the authenticity of the logs when he tried to explain them away, don't you?
It really doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is whether or not CCP believe any rules have been broken, and people demanding he be banned because they have a grudge against him is irrelevant. Take your hate campaign and go back to reddit.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2016-04-12 11:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Lucas Kell wrote:
They scam, they shill and they most definitely RMT.

Wasn't you the one demanding solid evidence of something and stating that "if CCP confirm this and that, they will definitely take action, yadda yadda" just one post before?

It's amazing how I can't comment on a single post of yours without recalling something about coloured utensils as of late.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#39 - 2016-04-12 11:39:12 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Wasn't you the one demanding solid evidence of something and stating that "if CCP confirm this and that, they will definitely take action, yadda yadda" just one post before?

It's amazing how I can't comment on a single post of yours without recalling something about coloured utensils as of late.
Except there is evidence, multiple people being banned is actually evidence. Just because the site has brushed it's hands of the bankers when they got caught claiming it's nothing to do with them doesn't change that. Read Nosygamer's blog (he's somewhat of an expert on RMT) and even he does into detail about how unlikely it is for the number of players to be banned as have been confirmed from IWI (not even counting the unconfirmed ones) without there be institutional RMT occurring.

The truth is that IWI has the perfect cover, the perfect method of laundering the ISK to keep it from affecting the site, and more than enough isk to make a fair sum. Without any unbiased counterpoints and independent proof I'm more inclined to believe the evidence presented.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#40 - 2016-04-12 11:41:07 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Zappity wrote:
So what do you think of the Florida article? I guess the MBC is fighting in the wrong place, namely in game.
I think that it raises some legitimate questions and I've not seen an evidence supported counter argument. The impact on CCP I would say is heavily inflated, but outside of that it's hard to claim that nothing of value is being gambled when the path to converting ISK to cash is so short.

http://nosygamer.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/fact-checking-yesterdays-iwantisk-story.html

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