EVE General Discussion

By that logic, forums, Teamspeak/Mumble/Ventrilo, e-mails and instant messengers cross the line, as people use those to talk about and coordinate their actions in the game, outside of the game. In years past, players have been scammed on voice comms outside of the game, were made to sing on Teamspeak in order to save their ships, were alliances forged and destroyed outside of the game. It's what people tend to call the "Metagame" and it's what many people genuinely love about Eve.

OK So this from the Reddit thread is why I tell people "DON'T CLICK ON A DAMNED THING".




It's more than doxxing/IP risks here. More than some spy being hunted either. In fact, lay that aside. This is something for super pilots and FCs.

Roughly 6 years ago I recall a story from another player who described doing some haunting of locals in some nullsec pocket. I don't recall the details except that his target was a Russian corp.


Anyway, they claimed they could get him, which he denied. But later during the usual cat and mouse fu that is Eve Online, the connection to the server got a bit funny.

Right before it happened the last thing to appear in local in the soon-to-be-frozen up client was "here goes" or something like that.

Now I'm no wizard of networks, but I know enough from my days protecting servers from Chinese hackers (seriously, real hackers. In China).

If someone gets your IP number, they can run a trace. This is not so much cop stuff. Unless you have Eve installed on a web server they won't get all the way to the end, but they don't need to.

They need only know what nodes you are using, which "big switch" you are getting to the Eve server to. It depends on your service. For example, I used to live at a place that had spotty cable internet as it was remote, and I could run a trace from there to my office VPN and see what nodes I was using (helpful to know if your connection is good for an online meeting with streaming video that you want to ensure is OK for it). But at times I used a 4G Wireless system connected to my computer and running the same trace revealed entirely different paths. The 4G account is from an entirely different company.

And then..... well there are "services" you can get anonymously which can run a DDOS on just about any address you give them. I don't know any personally, and I won't go beyond this point because IMO I'm on the verge of going from geeksplaining network 101 to game exploit.

Basically, the IP number can be used to shut down a connection, something that can be a really bad deal for an FC or super pilot.

Only a couple of times over the years I have heard of this happening in Eve.

If this "war" results in this kind of activity, not only should those engaging in it be permabanned from the game, but they should also face criminal charges in their home jurisdiction. But in the end, if internet spaceships so srs that people have to resort to these tactics, then suddenly I don't feel like playing this game any more if that's the kind of people who play it.

Hopefully CCP takes a good hard look into this matter and other matters like this because there are plenty of sore losers to go around.

Is that what EVE Online is about? This isn't the first time certain members of this group have been involved in these tactics...but it should be their last.

No one is getting doxxed.

Yet.

Today I was watching stream on twitch by Zarvox Toral, great guy, very down to earth, helps newbies etc...He was running Interceptor fleet.

At one point, they were about to engage caracals and someone DDOS'd his speak service, nobody could hear his order, bunch of ceptors died. I really really can not believe that CCP would tolerate something like this. We are not talking about game any more, this can cause serious damage IRL!!!

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