EVE General Discussion

Skill injectors are fine imo as they come from currently trained skill points and they can be blown up which is very amusing just like when plex is. Dailies however are NOT ok.

In case you havn't seen it this a quote from a CCP department - 'while we make sure there is one single mechanism that brings new skillpoints in to the system – training.'. That's found here - CCP Skill Injectors Blog

The amount of people in this game who will do stuff they dislike if not hate is staggering.

you cannot do it with all 3 chars on 1 account if i understand it right

Yes, they seem to have changed their mind on that one. That's something, at least.

Also, good job CCP on quietly editing that part in the post. Top of the line communication right there.

Isk faucets, now SP faucets.

Before it was let people make their own goals and now CCP are blindly thrusting goals at us.
Its their way of unnaturally intervening in the sandbox of eve, in the brazen attempt to drive interaction
when it is the players themselves who are supposed to be the ones to do it.

All I can see is that instead of skill training offline people will now kill an npc in high sec
[if they can] and then log-off. Eve loses some of its sandbox and people will go looking for one that doesn't
punish you for being offline with an arbitrary time limit.

1. 'Catching up' is a lie. You don't need lots of skills to play this game and 'have a chance'.
2. Like with other tools for 'catching up' like implants or skill injectors other players have the same tools. And if you need to 'catch up' then you most possible do not have much ISK and thus have a problem 'catching up' more established and rich players.
3. Thanks to 'catching up' Eve constantly loses something unique. First it was races (each in game race had different attributes and starting set of skills), then skill queue (needed planning to not get empty when you cannot log in), then came learning skills (do not even undock until you've got all of them to V, anyone?), .... And still new players need to 'catch up'. I guess only complete removal of skill tree and ISK from the game will get us to the point when no more 'catching up' threads will appear?

I strongly disagree. A new character is a target in so many ways, SP is just one of them. You can't fly strong ships, you can't fit them right, you can't even do things needed to get the stuff to make them somewhat competent. That takes SP, and in EVE, that means 'time'. You don't get SP by doing missions or other activities like other games let you do. It's being used as a stand in for XP like other games have, but also as a throttle to keep newer players learning at a reasonable pace.

Experienced players with new accounts got punished by not being able to 'level' them fast enough to be useful right away. With the Skill Injectors, that issue is now GONE.

This new 'daily' process is a way to let players that log in regularly get some kind of boost to their game play results. For a casual player like me (log in a couple times a week), it's not going to do much for me other than to let my same account alt start getting some SP, which is a nice bonus but it will be slow going.

For a regular, daily, player it becomes a decent SP stream for a same account alt to start improving Level 1 & 2 skills, making them useful for minor things within a month or so.

For a long time player using it for a main, it's a reason to check in daily and get another Skill Extractor made that can be pumped into an alt, a corporation, or for ISK.

The only problem I see is that veterans that earned it the hard way over time feel like their past time gain is being cheated. That is true from a certain point of view (to go all Obi-Wan on the topic), but if you flip that perspective around, you aren't restricted from taking advantage of it yourself so it's not like it's really hurting you or the game, it's just a change and one you can use to your benefit. So, I'd flip that frown upside down and see WHAT you can do with it rather than worry about 'what was'.

Yep, also they stated when removing limits to the skillqueue that they wanted to get rid of the limitations that people had when they could not check out skills in a daily or weekly basis, so they will not lose skillpoints. And now they are just adding something what would return that situation, even make it worse.

As one of those newer players (soon to hit 1 month) I see this as a welcome boost to SP generation but it's not something I feel is needed for me to stay in EVE, there's other factors which are far more important that Skill Points/Hour.

Excellent to hear that CCP changed it so that only 1 character/account can get the bonus ... for me it means that I might consider going for a 'slow training' Alt for Trading or something simillar instead of artificially boosting Dani to get some skills slightly quicker.