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Dailies? Grrrr ccp!

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Maia Kundoshi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#101 - 2016-04-11 20:49:39 UTC
I only read the first page, so sry if I'm echoing someone else.

And sry to 'trample' a bit on the majority line of thinking (or it seems like it)

But I'm a 'new player' , I played 2 months a few years ago and am back (unrelated), and have 0 desire to do those dailies. I have a 500k sp injector sitting in my stuff I can claim, unused. Why? I wouldnt even know where or what to use it own. I'm learning the game. And real NEW player, would be in the same boat. There's very LITTLE incentive for us to try and max out SP gains when it isn't even clear what the whole deal about sp is in the first place. We're way too preoccupied by missions, combat sites, exploration, low-sec/high-sec/null-sec, inventions, the market, mining, salvaging, ghost sites (i can keep going for a while....)

Most of the people that are going to jump unto those sps are non-newb players. Those either at the top that are panicking they won't stay on top much longer, or those mid-pack and above that want to reach the top.

So stop saying its too lure in new players and that new players are bad etc... new players are the best thing that can happen to EVE. CCP is milking YOU. They know their player base. They know you like the math, that you counted and added the numbers up, and that you now feel obligated to go and do the dailys and buy the injectors.

So really,..... the dailies arent bad, just dont do them. Stop feeling obliged to do them, you arent. And if someone does them... so what? Don't you want more players with stupid expensive ships to fight, more great wars, more great battles.

I'm thinking this is especially alluring to risky players that lose skills getting blown up in T3s (heard you lose skills when you die in those, not sure) - this makes things faster for them to get their skills back.


Why all the hate on this? What does it REALLY change?? Noobs are NOT benifiting from this, believe me. New alts from vet players are.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2016-04-11 20:57:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
^^^

See? This person is the type of new player we need. Not the kind that wants everything right now right away so they can be done with the game as quickly as possible.

You got one thing wrong, though - the whales with crazy expensive ships and no knowledge whatsoever aren't the ones taking part in the great wars and great battles you speak of. Most of the time, they don't take part in the game at all, until they get ganked, start a threadnought in the forums and ragequit. That's because they play the game for the "pixelrewards", not for having fun playing the game.

And as entertaining as ripping them off is, we really don't need too many of them.
Dani Gallar
Doomheim
#103 - 2016-04-11 21:00:52 UTC
Maia Kundoshi wrote:
I only read the first page, so sry if I'm echoing someone else.

And sry to 'trample' a bit on the majority line of thinking (or it seems like it)

But I'm a 'new player' , I played 2 months a few years ago and am back (unrelated), and have 0 desire to do those dailies. I have a 500k sp injector sitting in my stuff I can claim, unused. Why? I wouldnt even know where or what to use it own. I'm learning the game. And real NEW player, would be in the same boat. There's very LITTLE incentive for us to try and max out SP gains when it isn't even clear what the whole deal about sp is in the first place. We're way too preoccupied by missions, combat sites, exploration, low-sec/high-sec/null-sec, inventions, the market, mining, salvaging, ghost sites (i can keep going for a while....)

Most of the people that are going to jump unto those sps are non-newb players. Those either at the top that are panicking they won't stay on top much longer, or those mid-pack and above that want to reach the top.

So stop saying its too lure in new players and that new players are bad etc... new players are the best thing that can happen to EVE. CCP is milking YOU. They know their player base. They know you like the math, that you counted and added the numbers up, and that you now feel obligated to go and do the dailys and buy the injectors.

So really,..... the dailies arent bad, just dont do them. Stop feeling obliged to do them, you arent. And if someone does them... so what? Don't you want more players with stupid expensive ships to fight, more great wars, more great battles.

I'm thinking this is especially alluring to risky players that lose skills getting blown up in T3s (heard you lose skills when you die in those, not sure) - this makes things faster for them to get their skills back.


Why all the hate on this? What does it REALLY change?? Noobs are NOT benifiting from this, believe me. New alts from vet players are.


This +1 ... there's literally nothing I have to add to this post.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2016-04-11 21:04:05 UTC
And that all being said - the dailies won't change much, if anything at all. But why would I be rooting for a pointless, lazy and uninspired addition to the game, that will give us nothing?

After all, I really like this game, and care about it somewhat.
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#105 - 2016-04-11 21:11:24 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
And that all being said - the dailies won't change much, if anything at all. But why would I be rooting for a pointless, lazy and uninspired addition to the game, that will give us nothing?

After all, I really like this game, and care about it somewhat.


I'm getting the idea that you find every post you make to be an epiphany or a revelation to someone.
You probably stare at yourself in the mirror, don't you?
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2016-04-11 21:13:06 UTC
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
I'm getting the idea that you find every post you make to be an epiphany or a revelation to someone.
You probably stare at yourself in the mirror, don't you?


I do not own a mirror, but people keep telling me I am gorgeous. What's your point?
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#107 - 2016-04-11 21:15:07 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
I'm getting the idea that you find every post you make to be an epiphany or a revelation to someone.
You probably stare at yourself in the mirror, don't you?


I do not own a mirror, but people keep telling me I am gorgeous. What's your point?


I was just curious if you'd admit to being full of yourself.
This is usually where I'd make a clever jab but I want to see where this is going first.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2016-04-11 21:16:39 UTC
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
I was just curious if you'd admit to being full of yourself.
This is usually where I'd make a clever jab but I want to see where this is going first.


I am, and rightfully so. Does that offend you?
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#109 - 2016-04-11 21:17:39 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
I was just curious if you'd admit to being full of yourself.
This is usually where I'd make a clever jab but I want to see where this is going first.


I am, and rightfully so. Does that offend you?


I don't see why it would offend me.
You seem to be the only person with that much faith in yourself. Rock on, spaceman.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2016-04-11 21:20:07 UTC
And here I was hoping it would. But thanks anyway.
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#111 - 2016-04-11 21:22:23 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
And here I was hoping it would. But thanks anyway.


You're cute.
I'd lock you in my closet and beat you randomly throughout the day.
Doesn't that sound nice?
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2016-04-11 21:23:29 UTC
You are welcome to try.

On a different matter - don't you think we are derailing the thread a bit, darling?
Yarosara Ruil
#113 - 2016-04-11 21:28:55 UTC
Maia Kundoshi wrote:
So really,..... the dailies arent bad, just dont do them. Stop feeling obliged to do them, you arent. And if someone does them... so what? Don't you want more players with stupid expensive ships to fight, more great wars, more great battles.

I'm thinking this is especially alluring to risky players that lose skills getting blown up in T3s (heard you lose skills when you die in those, not sure) - this makes things faster for them to get their skills back.

Why all the hate on this? What does it REALLY change?? Noobs are NOT benifiting from this, believe me. New alts from vet players are.


You should have seen the ruckus they did when they announced the Skill Injectors. Many people deleted their characters out of disgust, others said it would kill EVE.

Bunch of drama llamas!

And while you as a new player don't fully appreciate the potential and usefulness of Skill Points, down the line in the mid-game of your career you will be scrounging for them and looking back in regret at some of your earlier career choices.
Maia Kundoshi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#114 - 2016-04-11 21:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Maia Kundoshi
... lol , there's no way to delete a post? (originally quickly stated awkwardness at conversation above Yarosara's post ^_^ )

I would have loved to make the post useful but I don't feel like I've played enough to warrant saying more than I already have :P It would risk me sounding like some self-entitled noob :P
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#115 - 2016-04-11 22:29:35 UTC
Maia Kundoshi wrote:
... lol , there's no way to delete a post? (originally quickly stated awkwardness at conversation above Yarosara's post ^_^ )

I would have loved to make the post useful but I don't feel like I've played enough to warrant saying more than I already have :P It would risk me sounding like some self-entitled noob :P



I happen to think you're just a bitter self entitled vet hiding behind a noob account..but what do I know?

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

Wexiz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#116 - 2016-04-11 23:55:03 UTC
Dailies do get boring quick in other games, if it's just 1 daily for 10k sp then it's not so bad.

I do wonder however if that would just be the start of dailies with more coming at a later date.
Anton Karnak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#117 - 2016-04-12 00:35:34 UTC
Pavlov's Dogs are drooling like mad.
"But I don't want to do dailies."
And yet some unknown force causes them to drool uncontrollably.
Exercise free will

or

DROOL DOGS DROOL !!!!!!
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2016-04-12 02:06:54 UTC
Maia Kundoshi wrote:
originally quickly stated awkwardness at conversation above Yarosara's post ^_^


I am awfully sorry, he can be like that. Some days I don't know why I married him.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#119 - 2016-04-12 03:09:46 UTC
I don't see a problem with it. Giving people a reason to log in can't be bad.

It is even a well balanced idea as It will be more helpful to new players than older players and is accessible to everyone.


10k SP to a beginner who just needs to fit a module so they can do a mission or mine a rock a bit faster is good for the beginner and doesn't hurt anyone.

Older players will get the odd 45 day skill trained up few days faster - Not really a big deal.


Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#120 - 2016-04-12 13:58:21 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
I am awfully sorry, he can be like that. Some days I don't know why I married him.

Neuntausend wrote:
he can be like that

Neuntausend wrote:
he


This is why we never have sex.