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Dailies give a higher SP boost than +5s implants and a perfect remap.

I would prefer CCP to remove / redesign the entire attribute system, since as you pointed out it kinda favours the people whose playstyle doesn't have a high risk of being podded. Either way. One broken system doesn't justify the implementation of another broken system.

1 character per account.

Approx 3.5 mill SP per year if you have OCD and do it every day. Whats that, 7 skill extractors a year? CCP milking the customer base for dank profit!!

Again. You're not losing SP. You're not earning them. Also you can buy them back. Or could if you didn't lost all that ISK while you didn't play. EVE is such harsh mistress, punishes you for not playing with her.

As for making the game more interesting, wake up. CCP thinks that they are doing exactly that with the Rubicon Plan. Neville Smit's 85% may disagree but CCP owes them/you/us nothing.

PCU reaction to Citadel has been a big notorious zero. Server population is at 2008 levels and keeps going down. But CCP thinks that the Rubicon Plan is doing well. And after all they can't just walk away from it at this point. Maybe they could remove teams from a structure set, slow down the whole thing and do something instead for PvE and high sec and solo play and the "85%", but even then, they would need to get it right. And that is unlikely for the little we know about the plans for PvE.

http://crossingzebras.com/dailies-in-eve-a-design-challenge/

Haven't seen a link to this article in the thread so I'm linking it.

It pretty much addresses the ONE point that really bothers people, the fact that you do have to do that task EVERY. FREAKING. DAY. The proposed idea is by far the best take on this issue I have seen.

Make it a cumulative weekly thing and I, and many people with jobs, family, or just a goddam life, will fully support it.

Which is why it's even worse. We need a good reason to log in. Like fun game to play. People being pushed to login because they have feel like they losing something is bad mechanism and will burn out players even faster. Why do I need this extra SP if i don't want to use them to play the game anyway? It's a slippery slope. The problem will go even deeper. We need positive reason to login not negative. Unless you want to decrease overall motivation and game reception.


What do you mean by cumulative weekly?

Why do you play first place? If playing to afford +5's is a chore to you I don't think you have fun playing this game. Do you think doing dailiy chore (shoot one rat) will improve your experience? That why everybody want more fun gameplay, not forcing to login to play the game.

If you go to eveoffline and check the trend (the graphs) for 1 year/5year or All, where do you see evidence that server populations are going down? The trend seems to be a slight increase in player activity in the last half year IMO (Ofc we cannot distinguish between if more player joined, or if players were just logged on longer). With world war bee it is likely that people have been loggin on more, but I have no proof of this. So I am really curious where you get this prognosis from? And it is pretty crucial as the supposed drop in player activity is your main argument in the above for that what CCP is doing is wrong. Yet the server population does not keep going down, as you proclaim.. perhaps they are on a right track afterall?

I think with cumulative he means that once a week you need to do 7 actions. You can either do one everyday, divide it over three days or do all seven on one day. The actions accumulate over the week, and are not daily. This would fit better to people who are busy in RL.

Sorry bud, I think you and I have different visions of what is 'fun' to do in EvE. I'd much rather be bad at EvE and get blown up repeatedly than grind all day, every day for implants. The point is, I get far less SP than someone who logs in once a week.

I don't feel forced to have +5's to get equal SP than people who seldom play, so why do the same people feel 'forced' to log in, if this goes through, when the reality is they may still gain more SP than the average player by being logged out. It all just seems rather selfish.

That is pretty much the argument, the only people that are concerned by this are ones that don't play the game that often. The average person playing daily isn't rolling around in +5's, are not playing Skillpoints Online and therefore will not be religiously running these dailies.

Sure, we'll do it a few times, but to think everyone will be logging in to solely do our daily is pretty naive.

If people don't log in to do it, then it is stupid and pointless. CCP is counting on people logging in to do this.

I play the game every day that I can. I also PVP in +5 implants. I don't like the precedent this sets with grinding for SP. I don't like being penalized on the days I cannot log in to the game. One of the fundamental things about Eve is that for years all you had to do to keep your character progressing was to keep subscribing. As someone in the military, that's a major draw. Now CCP appears to be taking major steps away from that model. And for what? For some bullshit ten minute daily logins that create another chore.

I already have enough "daily tasks" in Eve. I am a corporation leader and FC. I also have normal, everyday things I want to do: PVP, PI, industry, exploration, etc. Every login is already like being pecked to death by baby ducks. "I'm bored. Can someone lead a roam?" "Hey, is my Naglfar ready yet?" "Can you light a cyno for me?" "Where is my courier contract now?" "Can you scout for the strat op tonight? I need scouts in HED-GP, PF-346, Obe, and H-PA29." And that's in a drama free corporation/alliance.

CCP has done very little over the years to reduce the tedium of being a corporation/alliance leader. Those people make things happen and help keep others logging in. At this point in Eve, I mostly play for my corpmates. This is thirty minutes to an hour a day (five accounts) that I'll have to spend not generating things for others.