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Wow, 100 pages and counting, it is really interesting that there has been this much to be said about this topic of "Daily Opportunities coming soon". As stated, it is coming whether you want it or not. I am impressed if CCP even reads all of this. It looks like there were only a few that liked it or was ok with it. But, I was impressed that about a third of the comments had the facts wrong that CCP put out on the very first message.

CCP said, "The version of the feature we are planning to deploy first will be a simple 10,000 skill point reward that a character will receive the first time they kill an NPC ship every 22 hours (limited one character per account per day, chosen based on which character completes the task first). "

So just the first character (of possibly 3) on a account that does the required action (Which, so far, is to kill a NPC) gets 10,000SP. Even if that action was done in the course of doing that character's normal routine.

I.E. As a mining character, I go out to a belt and start mining. A rat (NPC) comes along, I deploy Drones, Blap, the rat is killed. I get 10,000SP {AND} the bounty on the rat in ISK. If I close the character down and start up the 2nd and later the 3rd character on that same account, in that same 22 hour period. Even if they kill a rat (NPC), they get nothing, but the bounty.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with this idea. I'll take the skill points. And because the 2nd and 3rd characters don't have anything being trained, I would start one of them up first, go kill the rat (or whatever other option CCP gives us) for the SP to assist that character's skill training. So that the first character that is utilizing the skill que can keep on training, but both characters can advance.

So yes, I would then log on with one of my other character(s) each and every day, a character that I would probably not even play (and have not even thought about). Then re-log back on with my main character and do my normal routine for the day.

So I say to all the negative commenting people, if you don't want to, then don't. You don't loose anything by not doing it, like the original 24 hour Skill Que. You just don't get the benefit if you don't.

Does anyone really need to say more?

Not sure you can call it casual with forced login every 22 hours. More like welcome to grindsvile and prepare for yet another MMO dying.

I like it.

I see a lot of doomsday prophets complaining about the token reward of 10k SP.
I really don't see a problem with this, any more than with implants or boosters.
Isn't that basically the same thing, SP out of "nowhere"?

If the recurring opportunity isn't for you, just don't do it.
Just like any other game content.

No, it's not "like any other game content". There were two meta in EVE. Gain SP and gain ISK. Gaining SP was declared constant mechanics. All other mechanics provided ISK gain based on your activity. So, players appreciated EVE for this. And now CCP screwed this meta by implementing skill injectors. Next step dailies. And with each step its getting worse. I assume that many players will adapt to this new meta. But that will not be the same EVE as we know it.

thats sorta giving the middle finger to your loyal players

At best. What they could implement is SP rewards for doing different parts of the New Player Experience (NPE). That would still be bad design as it trains the new players to expect huge rewards for every little step but it would be infinitely better than the every 22 hours grind that they are putting in now.

Sadly this is probably just a sign that CCP is in financial trouble and needs to inflate their numbers while leadership is stuck in the small gang pvp (or rather ganks) is what eve should be about. Effect is that they are doing their best to ruin everything that is unique about this game and turn it into yet another failed MMO by copying all the worst practices from the industry full of bad practices and very low on successful games that are actually making money.

So we hate CCP for wanting to make money. Check.


So maybe the daily opportunity isn't about making money? We still hate CCP for even suggesting it. Check.
The "grind" you are describing consists of logging on once a day, undocking and killing a rat. It is also completely optional.


Are you going to stop playing the game over this? Really?


Extended periods of time? Again: Really?
Either way, who is holding the gun to your head and forcing you to do it?

I feel like I have to put my word in here as well.
Dailies are horrible. I've seen them in many games and people hated it. It's always like you don't have to do them but the whole point of implementing them in game (which CCP confirmed in their posts here) is to force players to login every period of time (in this case 22h).
The whole SP system in this game is one of the best thing that was implemented in EVE. A lot of people including me had a long break from this game yet their still kept subscription up to no fall behind their friends. It wouldn't happen now when you will put daily opportunities because I would feel that I still miss a big chunk of SP so why bother.
On top of that if you want to boost your logins make sure that people have something to do in game. I quite often "play eve" without going online. I sit with my corp on ts but I don't feel like grinding isk or don't have enough time/people to go PVP. Player housing, mini events, mini games etc. Those are the things that keep players in game. You can reward them with interesting skins to give them reason to play.
There is really no good way to implement dailies. They are the worst type of content designed to force people to play the game against their will. We are still paying for it upfront for every month so you get your share. If EVE is not entertaining enough for me to login more the way to fix it is not to whip me to play it more rather give me other reason to sit in game than spinning my ship on station.

BTW Remove those stupid adverts that I can hear even on desktop from captains quarters.

Someone above mentioned something about skins.


What if instead of SP, the dailies rewarded Skins?

Set it so that depending on the size of rat that you kill, you get that sized skin.. Heck, they could even set it up so that you get the skin of the type of rat that you kill. Kill a Serpentis frigate, get a serpentis skin.


SInce people enjoy having skins, they will log in. But a the same time you're not causing the feel of a grind in people.


As mentioned many times before, thinking and planning ahead is what made Eve a great game. Adding in more ways to get instant SP (injectors are sadly here to stay) is just a bad idea that takes away that very important aspect that drew people to the game.

I think you missed the part where we - paying customers - are also obliged to provide content to the sandbox.

We pay to have the daily opportunity to generate content! We wouldn't have that if we unsub, so be glad they give us this unique feature.