Out of Pod Experience

Im a science and technology geek and a die hard NASA fan.

NASA was very cool, very cutting edge IMO and I scoffed at people that said we never landed onthe moon. Being a fair person though I listened to their arguments.

Well, it is a damn good argument. In fact, so good that I no longer believe we landed on the moon. I also came to the conclusion that NASA is full of ****.

Big 180 for me.

Here are two links with very convincing arguments. Makes for interesting reading.

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_30.htm

Your thoughts?


PS. I also think the Mythbusters sold out on their Moon conspiracy episode as they had NASA helping them out with their experiments.

Of course, had they found the myth plausible, it probably never would have made it on the air....so it was joke from the start.

Gullible is written on the moon...Just look up.

Remotes are not the issue. Im talking about manned landings. Yes, remotes have been to the moon and mars and some other places.

I find it curious that no blueprints of the LEM or Lunar Rover exist. They were "lost." No original video footage of the landings exists either. They were lost along with the blueprints I guess. The Van Allan radiation exposure issue has never been explained nor the pristine conditions of the lunar photos considering the film had no temperature nor radiation protection in the camera.

There is a whole list of inconsistencies assoctiated with the Apollo program along with curious opportunistic deaths of certain people. This isnt just about anomalies in the photgraphs.

Get a telescope - the landing site is there.

Conspiracies are fun topics, but the evidence is kinda weak when all you need to do is look through a telescope to prove it wrong.

Sorry to burst your hubble.

We have surprisingly different definitions for that little series of words, it seems.

To condense the rebuttals in a concise form.

While risky and expensive, the technology to put people on the Moon and bring them back has a very high chance of having existed at the time of the Moon landings, almost a complete certainty.
The two big problems are getting people in orbit (which I seriously doubt you're denying) and achieving lift-off from the Moon back into Lunar orbit (the only part that's unprovable with almost complete certainty), whereas transition from Earth to Lunar orbit is fairly trivial.

In fact, most of the prerequisite technology has advanced enough that we can actually afford to have SCHOOL PROJECTS to send equipment to the Lunar surface. JFGI.

So, yes, while proving or disproving with 100% certainly whether they were real or fake is impossible, there's a fairly big chance it's real.
And even if it wasn't real, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, eventually, technologically speaking, with enough funding and after enough tries.

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As to why we're not sending any more men to the moon ? It's as simple as it is sad.
IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO BRING THEM BACK
and
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR A QUICK ROUND-TRIP THERE AND BACK.
Plus, it's been done by others already, so why bother to do it again just to show everybody else that you can ? Nobody cares about that anymore.

It's pretty much the same reason we're not even bothering to send all that many people in Earth orbit anymore, even if sending people in Earth orbit has far more potential for closer-future financial benefits.

What exactly would be the benefit of sending people on the Moon as opposed to Earth orbit ?
The only good reason so far would be to establish a base there, and the only good reason for that would be to mine stuff. But we only need the stuff mined there after we also can make use of it properly, which we cant. And after it becomes profitable to mine, which it isn't, even if we could already use it.
As soon as we can use it and it's cheap enough to, we'll totally have a moon base.
But not before then.

P.S. But if we can send fully automated mining ops, since there would be no point in bothering with the life support and the getting people back part, it's a good chance we won't get a moon colony anyway. Besides, colonizing some asteroids is more economically advantageous than colonizing the Moon. So, we'll probably get asteroid colonies before we get a Moon colony.

The original tapes of the moon landing where re-used for the first shuttle missions in order to save hundreds of thousands of dollars. So think of this: the only original audio-visual stuff surviving of the broadcast of the first moon landing is a 16 mm filmation of a 8" monitor.

It's the kind of stuff that makes Euros shake our heads in puzzled incredulity about how devotely stupid and short-sighted can be American...

HI, obsidian here,

after meeting one of the apollo astronauts the one who was not a military personal but a geologist, Dr. Schmitt. I can say this. the lunar samples are cool and fun to study. Just saying the physical rock evidence we brought back outweighs any conspiracy theorist.

Imagine the repercussions if the landings turned out to be faked. Even if those involved are long dead, it gives the US a longer nose than pinocchio and would probably start a new space race for another country to be first.

The links address those pics...and it is a NASA site you are linking to.