EVE New Citizens Q&A

(Ninja) salvaging.

Being a pirate doesn't mean you only attack defenseless miners, you can attack anyone, then ransom their ship for muchos ISK. Of course, after they pay the ransom, you still kill them and take their mods.

ransom? That sounds perfect

my vision for game is to get in a good corp that pvp and roams around blowing up ships, stealing cargo, looting, escorting miners as they haul their cargo around and get a cut of that etc etc. Hopefully this is doable and I can make a good living that way for all I see is hundreds of posts about missions and mining. I would love never to have to do any of that crap.

I don't' mind grinding out missions at first so I can build up my skills and such but in a few months, can I completely quit that crap and still grow my character?

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is no such activity as you described available. Now, if you are eager to become a slave or serf in one of the RMT Plantations out in Zero, I'm sure they will be happy to accomodate you and may even be willing to replace your ship which you will lose in the defence of their RMT Plantation. Unfortunately they won't be willing to cut you in on a share of the real wealth resources (and will assert this is because they are used "For the Group", when in fact, they are used to pay for PLEX for the players that own you and the Plantation).

www.mylootyourtears.com

For a funny blog about the pirates I just described, they ransom ships for money, and do all kinds of ****. Worth a read.

There are Incursions which encourage group play in fits that are more PvP-like than typical mission fittings.

Otherwise there are a few ideas in the Making ISK guide that might help. Note that ninja looting can be profitable if you do it properly: picking up 500M ISK modules from a hapless mission-runners wreck can really make your day.

As a new player, it is important for you to establish a means of solid income and keep your interests in the game. I can understand your frustration and boredom. To be honest, Eve requires dedication, determination, a will to play and keep your account, and also can require much of your time. Don't get me wrong, Eve is my first MMORPG. I stopped playing the other games I had to dedicate all my investments into one game, one place, the Eve life.

As a noob, you would have best luck imo, by joining a wh (wormhole) corp, one that will split the costs of the player owned station, and will split the rewards from sleeper sites, mining asteroids, and harvesting from gas clouds. This can make you quite a bit depending on how much you play and participate, and depending on the corp or alliance of corps in the WH, and the willingness to help their noobs out.

If you want to pvp right from the get go, you can do this in a wh. Every time you guys set up to mine, there are people watching the wh. Pilots not within your wh pack, will find the wh you live in on random, and they do enter... you can always be watching the hole cloaked up waiting for the next snack! I used to do this a bit... I even had a second account to help mine while my main watched the hole.

You will be required to be on comms, in fleet, ready for a fight, or ready to chip in helping haul, mine, or train pvp tactics on your down time. Getting in wh corp may be just the ticket for you to get some isk, learn fleet behavior, pvp, and build a reputation within your corp or alliance. Unfortunately, in Eve, not much if anything is free. You need to spend the time learning, doing, and practicing. Eve is a game for the long haul imo... You will just have to find this out for your self, if this is the right kind of game for you.

Not many people pay their ransoms... Eve has been going on for almost 10 years now, and there has been plenty of time to set the characteristics in predictable behaviors expected from pilots. The best thing for me, is to think outside the box, I do not follow the rest of the pilots and their tactics, fits, methodology etc... you can do the same, Be creative. Be bold...

In a wh, there is everything to do, all in one system, or one group of connecting systems. I suggest you learn wh life asap, and give it an honest go. find a wh corp that is about 50 players strong active... find a class 4 wh... and get in a battle cruiser/ battle ship asap. Also, tackle frigs are freaking fun as all get out in a wh... Esp for pvp scouts. they are fast, hard to catch, and can pinn down bigger ships, while your mates come to back you up!

There is isk in the wh, and you simply need to just find a good match of corp/pilots to fit your needs or preference.
use the recruiment channel and post a lil add... example

New pilot in eve, Main char, seeking wh corp at least 25-50 players active. I want to pvp, help with pve, and gain self sufficiency in Eve. 1.2 mil sp dedicated player seeks WH home! Convo for details.

or something like that. If you got a good corp, they wont charge you much in tax no more than 20%, they will help you with skillbooks, ships or modules for inexpensive t1 stuff, and most importantly they will help guide and tutor you. Im not one for letting others move my stuff, dont move all your stuff into the wh at first. You gotta let them try you out, you gotta try them out. Some get noobs to enter the wh and they got all their stuff, and they take their ****, and pod them... or better yet, blow their ship up and let them frantically warp around in their pod, stuck within the wh. If you ever, want some help, send me a message in game and we can get on eve voice, and I can give ya a run down of do's and don'ts. WH can be tricky, Get a pod casts bookmark folder going on in your out of game browser, and start listening to pod casts, I recommended starting with LOST IN EVE, a wh podcast, Start with episode one, and go through the seasons... there is much to learn about wh life in that podcast! Best of luck, Fly Wreckless!

And by the look of it you found one of the good ones :)

Ignore the haters, and enjoy eve :)

Of course it is. Don't mind the RMT raving idiots in here.
EVE is what you make of it. If that's what you want to do - go ahead and do it.
If you are going to make a substantial income off it is another issue altogether. It all depends on how good are doing what you are doing.

Pretty much this.

Because of people like Hijeri, it's a rather easy decision when a pirate asks for a ransom. I tell them to shove it and move on. If I'm already out the ship, modules and cargo, I'm not about to let them take some ISK, too.

If more pirates were honest, maybe I'd consider paying ransoms.

You've got two other character slots on your account. Why not train them for trading or manufacturing?