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Vargur Level 5

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#41 - 2016-04-21 03:26:23 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Jenn aSide
I want to thank you so much for the Tengu fit, it's absolutely astonishing of what it can tank. Currently I'm running a rattlesnake as DPS and Tengu as the main tank, it's a lot of micro management with missiles, shields and drones but it doable and for a couple times I get a little nervous that the tengu won't make it or be able to succeed in a mission but the shield regen from the gist x is INSANE!

Thank you so much!

Greatly appreciate it!

-Maykid


Like I said, wish I could take credit for it, but I haven't had an original idea since 1979 (lol). Really glad ou like it, Like Atomic said, 2 of them are absolute murder on lvl 5 missions.


Yeah definitely going to have to train for it for my other character and get that rolling, 2 Tengu's that can tank that much would be crazy!

atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#42 - 2016-04-23 12:21:09 UTC  |  Edited by: atomic killer
Want to share my experience doing lvl 5 in a Regengu.

Dit those missions:

Location 1 (takes a while)
Wrath of Angels (very easy)
Oust the claimjumpers (takes a long time)...
Sansha aquisition very easy
Big sting 1 not too difficult
Big sting 2 you have to haul 6000m3, wich takes a long time.
Convoy attack kill 4 freighters (easy)
Cleansing fire you need to kill them all, blitzing doesn't work
Rogue spy 1-1 takes a very long time
Rogue Hunt, kill almost all, blitzing doesnt work
Rogue eradication - takes a long time
Operation Wyrmsbane - very easy and quick
Cleansing house, shoot the station (no need to kill it), kill the station spawn. Very easy.

I was using this fit

[Tengu, 5th Dimension hams]

True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Cap Recharger
'Thurifer' Large Cap Battery

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node


High-grade Crystal Alpha
High-grade Crystal Beta
High-grade Crystal Gamma
High-grade Crystal Delta
High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-602
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-705
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-805
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-905
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1005

Also for some missions it is a good idea to have a mobile depot and Heavy Missile launchers, thats for missions where there are stasis towers 60-80 km away.

Also carry cov ops subsystem and cov ops cloak, so you can travel safely between systems.

Also I could have done them in Vargur, but in my opinion it is a suicide to traver in marauder around hostile low sec.

Also from my point of view the profit from those missions isn't amazing (nowhere near lvl4 burners in 0.0). To make it more profitable you need to have 2 Regengu + 6 accounts, so you can pick the easiest missions.
Spike Spegel
The Real Folks Blues
#43 - 2016-04-23 16:42:19 UTC
Try replacing Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II with Medium Ancillary Current Router II so yuo can replace one PDU for third BCS.

atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#44 - 2016-04-23 19:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: atomic killer
Spike Spegel wrote:
Try replacing Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II with Medium Ancillary Current Router II so yuo can replace one PDU for third BCS.



I will not work. This way I have 138 cap extra. If I remove CCC II and a PDU I will have 78 cap extra, this will not be enough even against 2 capital neuts (1 energy neut tower III neuts 40 cap per second). With 138 extra cap It is possible to tank against 3 capital neuts.
atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#45 - 2016-04-26 08:15:47 UTC
Also 2 of those Regengu's can complete Core Garrison in C5 WH and most of other anomalies. Exept Core stronghold.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#46 - 2016-04-26 13:19:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
atomic killer wrote:
Also 2 of those Regengu's can complete Core Garrison in C5 WH and most of other anomalies. Exept Core stronghold.


I'm experimenting with fitting one less missile launcher and adding a deadspace medium shield transporter to each ship. Calling it Rx3.......Remote Repping Regengus. I feel dirty just saying it, but it also feels oh so good, like all dirty things Twisted
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#47 - 2016-05-11 17:43:28 UTC
Just a quick question,

Is it worth salvaging level 5's or is it more worth it just to blitz the missions?
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#48 - 2016-05-11 17:44:44 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Just a quick question,

Is it worth salvaging level 5's or is it more worth it just to blitz the missions?


i dont salvage ill collect tags though, they alone are like 50mil+

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#49 - 2016-05-11 17:49:48 UTC
Ah okay, I might end up doing one mission and salvage it just to see what I can get or make. Then from there probably just either go full blitz mode or something else... I do know though now a days the Tengu is amazing can't wait to test out 2 Tengu's :)
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#50 - 2016-05-11 17:51:11 UTC
i just blitz the britzable ones, the amount of lp you will make you wont really care about salvaging

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#51 - 2016-05-11 18:08:53 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
i just blitz the britzable ones, the amount of lp you will make you wont really care about salvaging


That is very true, I've been running level 5's all day today and haven't run into one to decline, sure takes a little bit of time but still get enough LP to make it worth it.
MerlinWR
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#52 - 2016-06-02 23:14:00 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
i just blitz the britzable ones, the amount of lp you will make you wont really care about salvaging


Hi,

First of all - this topic is amazing. Usually people do not share information regarding missions lvl 5.
Lan Wang mentioned that there are "britzable" missions lvl 5 - any chance you guys have a list with names for those ?

Once again - thank you.
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#53 - 2016-06-03 00:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Maykid Achilles
MerlinWR wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
i just blitz the britzable ones, the amount of lp you will make you wont really care about salvaging


Hi,

First of all - this topic is amazing. Usually people do not share information regarding missions lvl 5.
Lan Wang mentioned that there are "britzable" missions lvl 5 - any chance you guys have a list with names for those ?

Once again - thank you.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZOdaEZlRa6NxL1lUWQR33i_OEeBwUZUlewJb5flhT04/edit

This might help. The ones to avoid if you are going to use anything other than carriers are:
The Fortress

I know there are a few more off this list. My suggestion for you is to actually look up the mission before you accept it, and look at how many neut towers they have. If you are going to use the Tengu and see 3 neuts accept. If it's 4 or over, then I suggest don't accept it, The Fortress being one of them.

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReportsLevel5

Probably will be your best friend in looking this stuff up. Pretty straight forward just go through and make sure it doesn't have 1 room and doesn't spawn more than 3 neut towers. If it does deny the mission and move onto the next one.

Good Luck, Fly Safe!

-Maykid

P.S. Maybe could get stickied since people like this thread so much!
MerlinWR
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#54 - 2016-06-03 15:55:19 UTC
AWSOME - THANK YOU !!!!
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#55 - 2016-07-06 01:41:12 UTC
atomic killer wrote:
Want to share my experience doing lvl 5 in a Regengu.

Dit those missions:

Location 1 (takes a while)
Wrath of Angels (very easy)
Oust the claimjumpers (takes a long time)...
Sansha aquisition very easy
Big sting 1 not too difficult
Big sting 2 you have to haul 6000m3, wich takes a long time.
Convoy attack kill 4 freighters (easy)
Cleansing fire you need to kill them all, blitzing doesn't work
Rogue spy 1-1 takes a very long time
Rogue Hunt, kill almost all, blitzing doesnt work
Rogue eradication - takes a long time
Operation Wyrmsbane - very easy and quick
Cleansing house, shoot the station (no need to kill it), kill the station spawn. Very easy.

I was using this fit

[Tengu, 5th Dimension hams]

True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Cap Recharger
'Thurifer' Large Cap Battery

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node


High-grade Crystal Alpha
High-grade Crystal Beta
High-grade Crystal Gamma
High-grade Crystal Delta
High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-602
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-705
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-805
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-905
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1005

Also for some missions it is a good idea to have a mobile depot and Heavy Missile launchers, thats for missions where there are stasis towers 60-80 km away.

Also carry cov ops subsystem and cov ops cloak, so you can travel safely between systems.

Also I could have done them in Vargur, but in my opinion it is a suicide to traver in marauder around hostile low sec.

Also from my point of view the profit from those missions isn't amazing (nowhere near lvl4 burners in 0.0). To make it more profitable you need to have 2 Regengu + 6 accounts, so you can pick the easiest missions.


I looked at this fit and was kind of pondering of doing it after doing level 5's with the light rapid missile setup. This has way more reps and about 200 more dps than the light missiles but can't tank as much neuts. Is that correct to the point where you can only tank 2 capital neuts? or would it still be able to tank 3 capital neuts? If so, I might turn into a Tengu maniac....

-Maykid
atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#56 - 2016-07-06 20:02:13 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
atomic killer wrote:
Want to share my experience doing lvl 5 in a Regengu.

Dit those missions:

Location 1 (takes a while)
Wrath of Angels (very easy)
Oust the claimjumpers (takes a long time)...
Sansha aquisition very easy
Big sting 1 not too difficult
Big sting 2 you have to haul 6000m3, wich takes a long time.
Convoy attack kill 4 freighters (easy)
Cleansing fire you need to kill them all, blitzing doesn't work
Rogue spy 1-1 takes a very long time
Rogue Hunt, kill almost all, blitzing doesnt work
Rogue eradication - takes a long time
Operation Wyrmsbane - very easy and quick
Cleansing house, shoot the station (no need to kill it), kill the station spawn. Very easy.

I was using this fit

[Tengu, 5th Dimension hams]

True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Cap Recharger
'Thurifer' Large Cap Battery

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node


High-grade Crystal Alpha
High-grade Crystal Beta
High-grade Crystal Gamma
High-grade Crystal Delta
High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-602
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-705
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-805
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-905
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1005

Also for some missions it is a good idea to have a mobile depot and Heavy Missile launchers, thats for missions where there are stasis towers 60-80 km away.

Also carry cov ops subsystem and cov ops cloak, so you can travel safely between systems.

Also I could have done them in Vargur, but in my opinion it is a suicide to traver in marauder around hostile low sec.

Also from my point of view the profit from those missions isn't amazing (nowhere near lvl4 burners in 0.0). To make it more profitable you need to have 2 Regengu + 6 accounts, so you can pick the easiest missions.


I looked at this fit and was kind of pondering of doing it after doing level 5's with the light rapid missile setup. This has way more reps and about 200 more dps than the light missiles but can't tank as much neuts. Is that correct to the point where you can only tank 2 capital neuts? or would it still be able to tank 3 capital neuts? If so, I might turn into a Tengu maniac....

-Maykid


it tanks 3 towers no problem
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#57 - 2016-07-07 00:50:38 UTC
atomic killer wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
atomic killer wrote:
Want to share my experience doing lvl 5 in a Regengu.

Dit those missions:

Location 1 (takes a while)
Wrath of Angels (very easy)
Oust the claimjumpers (takes a long time)...
Sansha aquisition very easy
Big sting 1 not too difficult
Big sting 2 you have to haul 6000m3, wich takes a long time.
Convoy attack kill 4 freighters (easy)
Cleansing fire you need to kill them all, blitzing doesn't work
Rogue spy 1-1 takes a very long time
Rogue Hunt, kill almost all, blitzing doesnt work
Rogue eradication - takes a long time
Operation Wyrmsbane - very easy and quick
Cleansing house, shoot the station (no need to kill it), kill the station spawn. Very easy.

I was using this fit

[Tengu, 5th Dimension hams]

True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Cap Recharger
'Thurifer' Large Cap Battery

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node


High-grade Crystal Alpha
High-grade Crystal Beta
High-grade Crystal Gamma
High-grade Crystal Delta
High-grade Crystal Epsilon
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Power Grid Management EG-602
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-705
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-805
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-905
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1005

Also for some missions it is a good idea to have a mobile depot and Heavy Missile launchers, thats for missions where there are stasis towers 60-80 km away.

Also carry cov ops subsystem and cov ops cloak, so you can travel safely between systems.

Also I could have done them in Vargur, but in my opinion it is a suicide to traver in marauder around hostile low sec.

Also from my point of view the profit from those missions isn't amazing (nowhere near lvl4 burners in 0.0). To make it more profitable you need to have 2 Regengu + 6 accounts, so you can pick the easiest missions.


I looked at this fit and was kind of pondering of doing it after doing level 5's with the light rapid missile setup. This has way more reps and about 200 more dps than the light missiles but can't tank as much neuts. Is that correct to the point where you can only tank 2 capital neuts? or would it still be able to tank 3 capital neuts? If so, I might turn into a Tengu maniac....

-Maykid


it tanks 3 towers no problem


Wow... WELL! I will definitely give it a shot and see what happens. I'm beginning to like Tengu's across the board for multiple different reasons. But having a little extra dps and having that kind of tank is nuts... But much needed to start blazing through level 5's easier than doing it with light missiles, but helps to have a rattlesnake sitting 100km away applying additional dps to help out.

Might eventually run 2 Tengu's at the same time to run through level 5's even faster

-Maykid
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