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Security and the 4 great empires
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-04-01 08:39:21 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
The more you acknowledge them, the stronger they get.


We can't turn our backs for ever, can we, talking about better security for our Empires, being proactive unlike Concord and our faction police who deal out the punishment after the event.

Sadly, people like you are much to loud to be an effectively proactive force.


Sorry I don't understand, not sure i'm loud , just say things people seem afraid too say. Me talking about it has made our numbers grow. People in small group on their own have made contact with me to talk about their little fights, yes just still a lot of talk but its might be the start of better Empire space, in low and high.

But if you see a down side please explain.

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Matar Ronin
#22 - 2016-04-01 08:57:56 UTC
Although I understand your desire to impede the efforts of "pirates" in Empire space your timing is unfortunate. With a possible/ probable war on the horizon with the Drifters and an actual war with the Imperium raging in null sec the pilot pool that would be drawn to action is going to be very depleted for the next few months at least.

Pilots who want to fight are going to join a side in the null sec war. Pilots who want to protect Empire space from a grave danger are gearing up to fight the Drifters. I hope you can make use of this current time frame to build up both your ship fit doctrines and your combat strategies. I think people will stand up and help if you put forth a serious well thought out campaign for them to participate in. You need to show that it can be successful and they will have something to take home when the shooting is done.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#23 - 2016-04-01 14:28:05 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
The more you acknowledge them, the stronger they get.


We can't turn our backs for ever, can we, talking about better security for our Empires, being proactive unlike Concord and our faction police who deal out the punishment after the event.

Sadly, people like you are much to loud to be an effectively proactive force.


Sorry I don't understand, not sure i'm loud , just say things people seem afraid too say. Me talking about it has made our numbers grow. People in small group on their own have made contact with me to talk about their little fights, yes just still a lot of talk but its might be the start of better Empire space, in low and high.

But if you see a down side please explain.

By "loud" I mean you sound like every other white knight group who lack the ability to maintain OPSEC, namely employing anyone who applied, and announcing your operations in public forums. If you're as bad as the last white knight group I ran across your ship fits, staging systems, Comm channels, HQ, and Operating schedule will be common knowledge in the next couple of weeks. Trade hubs you frequent will be camped by 3rd party corps while the ganking groups remain free to peruse their chosen profession. Your targets can and will avoid systems you maintain a presence in and simply target systems you don't have covered. So, as much as I wish you well, I don't see this lasting long or working in your favor.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2016-04-01 21:58:38 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
The more you acknowledge them, the stronger they get.


We can't turn our backs for ever, can we, talking about better security for our Empires, being proactive unlike Concord and our faction police who deal out the punishment after the event.

Sadly, people like you are much to loud to be an effectively proactive force.


Sorry I don't understand, not sure i'm loud , just say things people seem afraid too say. Me talking about it has made our numbers grow. People in small group on their own have made contact with me to talk about their little fights, yes just still a lot of talk but its might be the start of better Empire space, in low and high.

But if you see a down side please explain.

By "loud" I mean you sound like every other white knight group who lack the ability to maintain OPSEC, namely employing anyone who applied, and announcing your operations in public forums. If you're as bad as the last white knight group I ran across your ship fits, staging systems, Comm channels, HQ, and Operating schedule will be common knowledge in the next couple of weeks. Trade hubs you frequent will be camped by 3rd party corps while the ganking groups remain free to peruse their chosen profession. Your targets can and will avoid systems you maintain a presence in and simply target systems you don't have covered. So, as much as I wish you well, I don't see this lasting long or working in your favor.


Ok I understand what you mean now, I'm draw up some plans for strategy which will also run into the tactical level, at the weekend end, when they are done I'll send you a copy to run over if you like,

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#25 - 2016-04-01 22:36:18 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:

Ok I understand what you mean now, I'm draw up some plans for strategy which will also run into the tactical level, at the weekend end, when they are done I'll send you a copy to run over if you like,

*Facepalm*

Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm sure sending a complete stranger detailed plans on your operations in no way comprises operational security.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-04-02 16:11:05 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:

Ok I understand what you mean now, I'm draw up some plans for strategy which will also run into the tactical level, at the weekend end, when they are done I'll send you a copy to run over if you like,

*Facepalm*

Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm sure sending a complete stranger detailed plans on your operations in no way comprises operational security.


Why do i bother, should have known better than talking to a gallente up her own ass, an outline of Strategy and tactics we are already using to good effect , which our enemies all ready know about , tactics we have worked on and work well, but like all plans can be improved.

Only way to get more people interested is to share our ideas , but its ok, you carry on making no useful contributions and putting pilots who try down. I love what we have made of our Empires , yes even Minmatar and I want to make it hard for people who don't follow our laws. I'm happy to fight the monster for people who can't but your kind make it easy for them....

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#27 - 2016-04-02 19:02:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Claudia Osyn
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:

Ok I understand what you mean now, I'm draw up some plans for strategy which will also run into the tactical level, at the weekend end, when they are done I'll send you a copy to run over if you like,

*Facepalm*

Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm sure sending a complete stranger detailed plans on your operations in no way comprises operational security.


Why do i bother, should have known better than talking to a gallente up her own ass, an outline of Strategy and tactics we are already using to good effect , which our enemies all ready know about , tactics we have worked on and work well, but like all plans can be improved.

Only way to get more people interested is to share our ideas , but its ok, you carry on making no useful contributions and putting pilots who try down. I love what we have made of our Empires , yes even Minmatar and I want to make it hard for people who don't follow our laws. I'm happy to fight the monster for people who can't but your kind make it easy for them....

And now you sound A little like Kim. I actually was trying to help you. Would you rather that I had just said: "Yeah, send me those changes to your strategy!" Then sell them off to CODE for a handful of ISK? Because that's what a lot of capsuleers would do. And given the amount of CODE and other hisec gankers still tooling around, I'd say that your tactics are not working as well as you think.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-04-02 22:02:00 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:

Ok I understand what you mean now, I'm draw up some plans for strategy which will also run into the tactical level, at the weekend end, when they are done I'll send you a copy to run over if you like,

*Facepalm*

Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm sure sending a complete stranger detailed plans on your operations in no way comprises operational security.


Why do i bother, should have known better than talking to a gallente up her own ass, an outline of Strategy and tactics we are already using to good effect , which our enemies all ready know about , tactics we have worked on and work well, but like all plans can be improved.

Only way to get more people interested is to share our ideas , but its ok, you carry on making no useful contributions and putting pilots who try down. I love what we have made of our Empires , yes even Minmatar and I want to make it hard for people who don't follow our laws. I'm happy to fight the monster for people who can't but your kind make it easy for them....

And now you sound A little like Kim. I actually was trying to help you. Would you rather that I had just said: "Yeah, send me those changes to your strategy!" Then sell them off to CODE for a handful of ISK? Because that's what a lot of capsuleers would do. And given the amount of CODE and other hisec gankers still tooling around, I'd say that your tactics are not working as well as you think.


If it was help you offered i missed it sorry but thxs for trying to help , we are a pain in codes side, we save freighters and if we can't save a ship we make them work hard to kill it. Not that they would ever admit to it. Trust me our tactics are working, 6 of us the other day stopped a 30 ship gank fleet , think what 30 of us could do, I now we can never stop it dead but we can make it very hard for them . So pilots talk to us any time to find out what you can do and how to help, lots of job need doing other than combat .

Want to say thanks to all the people who have sent email of support Lol

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

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