Player Features and Ideas Discussion

From a business point of view, why on earth would CCP ever do what you're suggesting? They aren't a charity.

And why do you think vets use ISK for plex? Plexing accounts is one of the dumber things people do. One plex is 1 billion ISK, you can earn enough to pay the $13/mo subscription in well under an hour IRL. Are you earning 1 billion ISK in under an hour?

Anyone plexing their account doesn't understand the concept of opportunity cost.

Except no...

Plex prices are determined by players, and the same with Skill injectors.

You training skills does not create PLEX, nor does it create skill extractors.
PLEX MUST be purchased with real cash, and skill extractors must be purchased with PLEX.

Your math is assuming that PLEX are just produced out of thin air.

Even if you're producing enough SP to fund that account fully off of PLEX, that PLEX is still paid for and costs $20 as opposed to $15.

You're also forgetting that it costs PLEX to purchase extractors... Even if you're not the one doing the PLEX purchase, and instead purchasing them off the market with isk; It doesn't change the fact that they still require PLEX.

A PLEX gives you 3500 Aur.
You can get 10 extractors for 8000 Aur.
That's perfect for your example.
So, you'll need basically 2 1/3 PLEX for 10 extractors.

Now, when you sell those injectors, you're effectively netting 2 2/3 PLEX, as opposed to 5.
If you're using one of those PLEX to fund your account, you're only netting 1 2/3 PLEX, or 1.83 Bil isk.

Now, this is factored with the x10 extractor for 3500 Aur. Typically, it's 1k Aur for 1 extractor.
This is effectively 2.8 PLEX for 10 extractors.
Reducing earnings slightly to 2.2 PLEX, user 1 for account = 1.2 PLEX or 1.32 Bil isk.

Whether it's 1.83 Bil, or 1.32 Bil... Hell, even if you don't fund your account with a PLEX = 2.93 Bil, or 2.42 bil.
That's not that much, considering this can be earned in game through Incursions and many different types of production.
Hell, CODE can make significantly more than that on a single freighter gank.
I've saw a freighter just the other day drop 18 bil in skill injectors.
That is effectively 7-8 of your SP farming alts in about 15 seconds.

Incursion runners get around 37 mil in 10-15 minutes. Based on your highest Isk, being 2.93 bil, an incursion runner could earn that in 79 sites (actually less since you make around 37.5 mil per site) which is 1,185 minutes - 19.75 hours - .823 days.

So, even an incursion runner could do in one day what it took you to do in a full month.

Running lvl 4 missions, a player can make about 40-50 mil an hour. If you factor 40 mil, then it would take them 73.25 hours. Basically, a little over 3 days.

Now, while incursion running and mission running may require effort, it's really not all that unexpected to be able to pull that off.
I've also heard of people making significantly more picking up null sec goo and making over 10 bil per month.


So, while you can sit here and say that you can advantage of it, what you fail to realize is that active involvement in the game would actually be more beneficial than SP farming.
You effectively cost yourself 3 2/3 PLEX to run one toon, and farm 2 toons.

So again, this would actually be more beneficial to CCP. Players would be more likely to farm SP from alt toons that have free training with your account, than they are to pay 2 PLEX plus the 3 2/3 PLEX.

So, SP farming becomes a better career path, other players that can't afford multiple accounts will be more entertained by having gameplay options instead of being locked into a single toon for everything (thus sticking around longer and/or not taking long breaks in which they're unsubbed), PVP would likely become more prevalent as there would be more toons in which players are willing to risk since they're alternately funded, the SP farmers provide SP to those alternate toons thus getting them into PVP sooner and attribute implants don't cause risk aversion with those toons, AND CCP would likely earn more money at the same time.

It's literally a win, win with some wins, wins, wins, and wins as side effects to all the winning.

It's less what you would use it for and more how others would abuse the idea.

Since when can you not do anything else with a character actively training?

That's 3 billion a month in addition to the income you would normally make with that account. That's 3 billion a month of 100% passive, risk free isk.

I have five alts that have capped their skills for their chosen profession. Using OP's suggestion, with proper remap and two +5 implants, I could crank out 5 skill injectors a week doing nothing but chain training Amarr Frigate to 5. With just a little setup, I could make 1.2 billion isk, after expenditure of buying extractors off market, every 7 days, 21 hours without any risk what-so-ever.

If I were to do this for 6 months with all 10 of my characters, because I've been here long enough that I don't really need to be actively training anything anymore to do what I enjoy in EvE, I could quite make an easy 12 billion isk a month passive income, while still raking in that 13.5 bil a month running incursions on a single character.

It's currently not feasible to do this because of the cost of MCTs.

OPs suggestion is never going to happen.

I want to round out the other characters on this account a bit, nothing too important, nothing that I'd be willing to pay for anyway, but a more user friendly way of balancing the queues between characters would be nice.
Pausing and altering them from the character select screen would be ideal.