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Allow triple character training for 1 subscription

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Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-03-24 21:10:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tian Toralen
Allow triple character training on the same account for the subscription fee. Not being able to play another character if I don't pay another subcription fee, feels like a scam. 15 Euro should be enough for three characters. If you want EvE to thrive that is. First time I tried to start a second character, and saw I need to pay again - it felt like a scam. Somehow - the game attracted me enough to ignore that.

There are too many mechanics in this game that feels like they are there just to make players pay more. This is the main one.
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-03-24 21:11:17 UTC
Abloo hoo hoo.
Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-03-24 21:14:01 UTC
Go away, this is what I want, this is what I ask. I am not paying 30 euro, so I can play with two characters - one at a time in fact...
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2016-03-24 21:23:44 UTC
Why do you feel you should get the benefit of three accounts while only paying for one?
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2016-03-24 21:35:47 UTC
You can play other chars. They just cant train.

At the end of the day the price is what it is, whether you pay in isk or RL currency. You either think its worth it or you dont. And obviously many people think its worth it.

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Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#6 - 2016-03-24 23:45:41 UTC
no poor allowed
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2016-03-25 00:08:51 UTC
You can train 3 on one account already.
It just requires paying for the other two. What you are asking for is not the ability to do so, but the ability to do so for free, please name your thread correctly.
Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-03-25 01:30:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tian Toralen
Edited.
Im a casual player, no intention to pay for more than 1 account. I got myself 2 accounts once, thinking I will do industry with one - but soon I realized I did not use the industry one.

The current system does not allow me to try other stuff in a casual way - unless I pay for it. And I don't want to pay for it exactly because I am casual, if I pay for it I feel I am forced to play 2 characters fully, doubling my playing time, and I have no intention for that.
EVE is unique in this, imagine another MMORPG requiring another subscription for each character. To me this system feels like some "get the full experience for another 9.99!" scam. I think it would be good for the game in the long run.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#9 - 2016-03-25 01:32:54 UTC
Tian Toralen wrote:

EVE is unique in this, imagine another MMORPG requiring another subscription for each character. I said it - it would be good for the game in the long run.

Imagine another MMO that allows (& only has) passive character training that doesn't require grinding. And you should now understand why you have to pay for more characters to train.
Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2016-03-25 04:12:56 UTC
Tian Toralen wrote:
EVE is unique in this, imagine another MMORPG requiring another subscription for each character. To me this system feels like some "get the full experience for another 9.99!" scam. I think it would be good for the game in the long run.

EvE is also unique in that you can pay for those characters entirely with in game currency.
EvE is also unique in that you can make money in game through trading characters.
EvE is also unique in that you can make money in game by extracting "experience" from one character to sell to another.
And, as Nevyn said, EvE is also unique in that you can improve your character while only logging on once every few months, as long as you keep your subs/MCTs paid up.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#11 - 2016-03-25 04:39:31 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

EvE is also unique in that you can pay for those characters entirely with in game currency.

This bit incidentally isn't true, though I believe EVE was the first a lot of other games now have a similar system.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-03-25 04:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Risalo
I really don't see the problem with this request..
I mean, you're paying for an account that has 3 character slots, yet you're locked out of functionality on two of them even though you can only use one at a time...

...Sadly, no one's opinion on this matter AT ALL.
Supporter or denier.

CCP is already making money by charging for this.
Not gonna change until Eve goes free to play.....IF


Edit...
on second thought, this won't even change if/when they go F2P because it's a way for them to make money still.
Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-03-25 05:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmer Jones
I don't see why I shouldn't get a six pack for the price of a can. I mean it's not like the brewery doesn't produce alot of beer, right? Why should I have to pay for the experience of more beer, just because someone is in business and has profit margins Why should I have to pay what others do, that is: whatever the rest are willing to pay?

You pay for Access to ccp's servers with one skill que active, playing character at a time. You can skill all those characters up without paying a single real world piece of currency. It still pays the company and gives them what they need: real world money to buy the whole six pack of beer that they worked for.

Use the force without consent and the court wont acquit you even if you are a card carryin', robe wearin' Jedi.

Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-03-25 07:35:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tian Toralen
They could make it so if an account is paid with real money, it can train 3 chars.

I agree, I used PLEX when I had the isk, this is a feature I like and is not found in other games. PLEX prices would go down, customer satisfaction and subscriptions for real $ would go up.

They could allow ~infinite characters on the same account, with the possibility of playing them all at once - if 3 of them are active.

PLEX prices would be 1/2 the subscription price, this will attract new players that will end up buying a subscription. And there could be 2 types of PLEX - this first one intended for new players, or players that are satisfied with only 1 character, and a second one for those who already have a subscription, these would cost 1/3 of a sub for each new character.

And a third type of plex costing 3/4 of a subscription, for 2 characters training.

So: 1/2 sub PLEX - 1 character, 3/4 sub PLEX - 2 characters, 1 sub or 3 x 1/3 PLEX: 3 characters and possibility for playing with multiple EVE windows open, and each new character after the third is 1/3 PLEX.
Anthar Thebess
#15 - 2016-03-25 08:35:49 UTC
But account is always trained for real money.
Even when someone activated the plex - someone bought it first, even more price of a PLEX is much bigger than price of a subscription.

This is very simple.
1 account allow you to have 1 character logged in.
Multiple character training allow you to train more than 1 additional character at the time.
This game is to generate income for CCP not for you to have fun (this is a side effect).

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2016-03-25 08:42:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Imagine another MMO that allows (& only has) passive character training that doesn't require grinding. And you should now understand why you have to pay for more characters to train.

I'll play devil's advocate here: imagine passively training for 20 years instead of actually playing the game for like a month or two to reach peak "strength" and do everything the game allows a character to do P

Oh well, that's besides the point tbh.
Tian Toralen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-03-25 08:42:36 UTC
You got it wrong. If the client is not satisfied there is no income. I am still satisfied now ~70%... I presented a new business plan intended to attract new players with somewhat lower prices, but making a subscription more advantageous. More players, more subscriptions, and more fun (having more characters) - translating into even more players...
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2016-03-25 08:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Tian Toralen wrote:
You got it wrong. If the client is not satisfied there is no income. I am still satisfied now ~70%... I presented a new business plan intended to attract new players with somewhat lower prices, but making a subscription more advantageous. More players, more subscriptions, and more fun (having more characters) - translating into even more players...

Pretty sure CCP have their own economists that set monetization plan that they think is the most profitable. Pretty sure they can back their work up.

No offense, but random dude who wants to triple his SP gain for free (something that others evidently are willing to pay for, and they do pay since 2003 for that, compensating for "unsatisfied customers" that may or may not even exist, by the way) making claims about how this will increase CCP's profits without even having access to company's detailed financial data doesn't sound very convincing.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#19 - 2016-03-25 08:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Regnar
Tian Toralen wrote:
Edited.
Im a casual player, no intention to pay for more than 1 account. I got myself 2 accounts once, thinking I will do industry with one - but soon I realized I did not use the industry one.

The current system does not allow me to try other stuff in a casual way - unless I pay for it. And I don't want to pay for it exactly because I am casual, if I pay for it I feel I am forced to play 2 characters fully, doubling my playing time, and I have no intention for that.
EVE is unique in this, imagine another MMORPG requiring another subscription for each character. To me this system feels like some "get the full experience for another 9.99!" scam. I think it would be good for the game in the long run.

Lol what are you? A casual?

I refuse to take such a rant thread seriously.

You can lock the thread if you don't like me shitposting in a shitposting thread.

Also OP has no clue about how companies run, what an idiot.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.

Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#20 - 2016-03-25 09:12:44 UTC
Tian Toralen wrote:
Edited.
Im a casual player, no intention to pay for more than 1 account. I got myself 2 accounts once, thinking I will do industry with one - but soon I realized I did not use the industry one.

The current system does not allow me to try other stuff in a casual way - unless I pay for it. And I don't want to pay for it exactly because I am casual, if I pay for it I feel I am forced to play 2 characters fully, doubling my playing time, and I have no intention for that.
EVE is unique in this, imagine another MMORPG requiring another subscription for each character. To me this system feels like some "get the full experience for another 9.99!" scam. I think it would be good for the game in the long run.



Hey buddy, how about stopping train on 1 character to train a different one....that or place them on different accounts.
That is how it works........

otherwise.......

SHUT THE F U C K UP!!.

holy crap, ******* casuals.
Did not know Goons were hiring strict carebears these days.
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