EVE General Discussion

Did it die?

Up for grabs.

Yeah...n00bs put bounties on themselves to look dangerous. Care to comment?

It's a completely broken system.
Players can collect bounty from themselves with a friend or alt. WTF.

Link the amount of bounty collected to the ISK cost of ship & module destruction, or value of clone & implants lost, and then we'll talk.

It's a shame. Many players begin EVE wanting to be a bounty hunter, but there is no option for them.

there are some ideas that could fix the friendly bounty collection, but they need to be worked out
also, tbh, it should have a decay, 5-20% per month; bounty system shouldn't be your personal fund display (i'm looking at you EOH)

I totally understand that, but why don't you use more realistic options, like thrashers ?
And again ... gankers (alts) don't use implants.

The people i've seen with a few hundred million bounty ... they use battlecruisers or battleships ...
... and definitly don't use anything uber expensive.

Why are you choosing such a bad example ?

Sorry, not sure I understand. If there was a decay in bounty, there probably wouldn't be any people putting bounty on themselves as it would be a huge loss. I didn't mean that the decay should be calculated once a month, but rather that the total drop should be 5-20% per month, but it should be calculated every hour or so : f.e if it were 10% drop per month, and a month had 30 days, it would be 0.0139% per hour, about 14mil every hour if they had 10bil bounties, not something you'd like being wasted.

This has also nothing to do with the friendly bounty collection fix (ship/implant linkage is the way to go there probably or private contracts/specific shuffled bounties).

Ah, now i understand.

Okay ... but ... why is there a problem with people putting bounty on their friends ?

I know about EOH, but that's not broken. What's broken is that we have a toplist,
where only a few people with bounties show up ... instead of a way to search for people with bounty
or having a longer list of people ... or just at least no toplist! *lol*

Also ... decaying bounty ... well ... then you'll have 100 Million bounty on your head ...
... and if you believe you're too endangered with that ... you just wait it out and use an alt.

That's no good...

This actually sounds pretty good ! +1

Yeah, that example is unrealistic. There were some much better ones, also using a bit more complicated math on the F&I discussion forum.
But let's say you have a T2 harbi: 40mil~ ship and 30mil~ modules, with 20mil insurance (to ease calculating). In case his bounty is high (100+mil or anything higher than this calculation will give) you would probably get: (40mil - 20mil) * 0.5 + 30mil * 0.5 = 25mil. In case you also kill his pod (10mil clone and 30mil implants), you would get an additional 10mil * 0.5 + 30mil * 0.5 = 25mil, for a total of 50mil. That's not really bad for what you did (it's just a T2 harbi), but you will also get whatever he drops.

Now on a more expensive example, where the person with the bounty would have a T2/pirate cruiser or a T3, the payout would probably be much higher (due to lower insurance), about 200-350mil. The 0.5 modifier could be increased a bit, it is put in place to insure you can't easily clear your bounty for close for no cost.

But you mustn't forget, this also means that the player which had the bounty collected, will have his bounty reduced slightly, but will still have it on him (meaning the threat isn't completely removed).