Intergalactic Summit

These people you mistakenly claim as 'yours' have been Amarr for well over 130 years at the minimum. They are not your people any longer, and have not been for quite some time.

The Empire accepted the existence of the Republic and we have moved on. Time for you to move on as well, Ms Del'thu.

"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."

- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy. CE 23215

If that's true, they would stay if given the choice right? Seems to me you're afraid they'll act according to the old Gallente saying and "Vote with their feet."

Sorry, I think I misquoted. My reply was more aimed at who Nauplius was quoting in reply to you. IF that is a complete and unaltered quote I do find it funny we are the horrible monsters completely out for blood. From what I know of you I doubt you would agree that war is something of beauty, but a means to an end and nothing else.

Hm. Well ... I'm not sure Nauplius has ever accused you of such a thing, though. He might have. He's ... a little myopic that way. He accuses us in the Society of wickedness for our hostility to his facilities and doings on a kind of regular basis.

It's probably unaltered, though I'm not sure it's complete. I wouldn't necessarily expect the tone to change all that much with context, though. The language and traditions supporting Reclaiming by the sword are still pretty strong, even now, even if only House Sarum seems to really still think it's a good idea.

For my part ... oh, gods and spirits.

So, here's the thing, Ms. Vess. I don't really want anyone in this world dead (not even Nauplius) (usually). But ... people die. Some of them are people I kill. Even if it isn't desirable, death can have beauty in it, just as life can.

For me, divinity is omnipresent in this world. Nothing is not sacred. There are no exceptions.

That doesn't stop some things and dynamics from being destructive, or mean that all things are equally desirable. Divinity may not play favorites, but humans do, and must. But as I try to see the Totality-- the divine, in the world ...

In my darkest thoughts, I see a world where the grudges of nations have played out to their fullest. A few ragged remnants of great fleets might remain; the bones are mostly being squabbled over by marauders. Plantside, he fortunate are long-dead; the unfortunate eke out an existence on worlds laid to ruin. Those inhabited planets that haven't been glassed outright are choked with dust and ash. Starvation's pretty near ubiquitous.

Maybe the Angel Cartel will develop and flower into the next great civilization. Maybe it's Goonswarm, but I think the ambient technology level at this point drops below what's needed to sustain capsuleers. Maybe Saede Riordan and Origin manage to struggle on, develop into something bright and remarkable. Maybe Sansha's Nation gathers so many resources from the fallen civilizations that it becomes unstoppable. If that last thing happens and I'm somehow still alive, I would like to be shot in the head, please.

Whichever way, it'll take a long time for civilization to recover, if it ever does. And there's no reason to think it'll be any prettier when that happens than it is, now.

I dread that world. I never want to see such a sad thing come to be.

It's beautiful, though.

True but how often have you heard other... actually sane Amarr or Khanid, refer to us as so? In the last few months I can think of more than a handful of times we were. Obviously its pretty safe to say that any accusations or insults thrown out by him towards my people or your corporation are pointless and generally just plain funny.


I easily could believe due to the person who initially said it that it wasn't as black and white as he's making it seem. He has done it in the past and been called out for it by members of PIE and your own corporation if I'm not mistaken. With these traditions of "reclaiming by the sword" and its associated rhetoric is there any wonder why you still see raiding parties and fighting still occurring to this day? Talk about killing and enslaving us or having it be some acceptable thing when even your late Empress spoke of striving for peace is hypocritical at best and a declaration of intent at its worst. Obviously this was Nauplius invoking words from the past by some long dead leader but even still, someone should put a muzzle on some of your more vocal loyal slaver hounds.


Well, maybe I didn't have you figured out as well as I thought I did. I guess the act of dying for a cause you fully believe in has a little beauty to it, the actual act of it is far from it to me. In the end of the day its still many combatants who will no longer oppose you, yet rarely is it not the case where many of your own die as well. That in it of itself is a horrible image to me. The way I've kinda always seen it was my goal is to have my own return and complete their tours with me and then go on to something aside from the war. In the end we're fighting so others don't have to. When push comes to shove and others don't make it, it seems like a failure in some small way for me. Perhaps its just my own way of looking at it.

There are a few I do wish harm upon, a few I wish death on as well. Does that extend to their crews? Not generally, no. I guess that's the joys of being a nobody, fools like myself take pity. Not to say I'm much of anything notoriety wise, but at least my name shows up as leading, as opposed to simply performing maintenance on some random Rifter in the Amamake system. What ever comes of the next great civilization, I don't know and I also don't care. Whatever I do is for what we are currently, and hopefully that will shape what we are to come. With any luck maybe our descendants wont know the "beauty" of war. I doubt it highly. Any of us here come from violence even if its not directly. Everyone of us will be exposed to it as well. Welcome to human nature. Consider it beautiful, horrific, or anywhere in between. That doesn't change the fact that what has to be done will be done.

Mutually Assured Destruction, Slaver Newelle. The Republic has advanced quite a bit since the last time your people attacked us. While it's certainly true that you hold a significant military advantage over the Republic and if it ever came to an all out war you'd eventually overwhelm us. However, we Minmatar would fight to the very last gasp and make such a "victory" so costly in terms of lives, equipment and materiel that what remained of your empire would be wide open to internal attack by the likes of the Blood Raiders, Angels, EoM, etc and external attack by the Sansha, Drifters and Federation.

So go smugly about your business calling us savages and so on. Just remember what happened at Vak'Atioth and its aftermath.

P.S. You can take your pity and shove it.

The Empress announced the End of Slavery was approaching. So that's that then.

I'm not the Empress.

There are limits to my ability to do that.

Clearly, I meant that I can only order the emancipation of any slaves that I personally am responsible for.

The Empress can order the emancipation of a lot more.

but fine, joke about it, alienate the people in the Empire who might be able to make a difference.