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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#101 - 2016-03-27 15:59:53 UTC
Nofear Alt wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Nofear Alt wrote:

This game is absolutely the harshest - but that is what makes it one of the best, if not the best MMO out there. No other game gives you the heart thumping action of Eve. I've played since 2003 and even now I still get a rush when closing in for a kill, because you always know that there is a chance that you could get blobbed yourself!





Do you still get that adrenaline rush when you post, sweating and breathlessly excited, hiding behind your NPC no-consequence alt? Lol


Well Bumble me old mate, unlike some of these monkeys on the forums, I prefer to get my adrenaline rush IN GAME rather than slapping my epeen about on here ;-)



Fair does captain - but have you considered you might get even more in-game rushes if people were able to pin the consequences of any of your forum actions on you...in-game? Big smile

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Black Pedro
Mine.
#102 - 2016-03-27 16:24:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Fred Kyong wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Where do you get your figures? Any proof of that?

I still doubt it. If this would be THE business, everyone would do it. It´s just not.

Otherwise: Post a transaction history of the corp wallet here. Now.
I linked the numbers in my post. The kills and losses of the CODE. alliance are on zKillboard for the world to see. It is a simple matter to see that almost all of the losses of CODE. are to CONCORD and are ships that were already written off when they undocked.

I am confused. Are you arguing that ganking is too hard and not profitable? Because most people crying here usually argue the opposite: that is too easy and profitable.


It does not matter. Concord or not. Loss is lost. ISK burned. Compared to loss and destroyed a very bad ratio, almost 3:1

Are you delusional? The CODE. Alliance has destroyed almost 28 trillion ISK and only lost 2.4 trillion (92.2% efficiency). That ratio is the best among the top alliances and means they have destroyed over 10 times worth of ships then they have lost.

The fact their ship number ratio is skewed by CONCORD losses is inconsequential. Take your loss for example. They lost 29 Catalysts blowing up your Orca and pod. On paper they lost 29 ships to your 2. But your two were worth over 2b ISK while theirs were only a hundred million or two.

Spin that as a loss if you want, but any reasonable person would call that a win for the CODE. Alliance. Given that they always win, that isn't really a surprise.

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#103 - 2016-03-27 16:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
No. They do not get freighters with tons of cargo all time. They also kill empty ones and this does not get anyhting much. They are just losing. No ganker wins long term and they are nothing else as gankers. No business people and poor management in my eyes.

Would make more sense to sit in Jita and gank all freighters there but they are just to weak to do this.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Something Really Pretentious
#104 - 2016-03-27 16:43:10 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
No. They do not get freighters with tons of cargo all time. They also kill empty ones and this does not get anyhting much. They are just losing. No ganker wins long term and they are nothing else as gankers. No business people and poor management in my eyes.

Would make more sense to sit in Jita and gank all freighters there but they are just to weak to do this.
i'm not going to argue with you, stupid.
The fact that CODE. will be celebrating it's 4th anniversary this year means that you're so stupidly clueless you don't even realise it.
4 years is a long time, so whatever "long-term" means to you, you should just stop talking

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#105 - 2016-03-27 17:06:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
No. They do not get freighters with tons of cargo all time. They also kill empty ones and this does not get anyhting much. They are just losing. No ganker wins long term and they are nothing else as gankers. No business people and poor management in my eyes.

Would make more sense to sit in Jita and gank all freighters there but they are just to weak to do this.
i'm not going to argue with you, stupid.
The fact that CODE. will be celebrating it's 4th anniversary this year means that you're so stupidly clueless you don't even realise it.
4 years is a long time, so whatever "long-term" means to you, you should just stop talking


Why would you know? Stats on killboard are evident. Best isk making corp with a ration of 3 loses to 1 win. Lol. Simple math, back to school :)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#106 - 2016-03-27 17:16:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Fred Kyong wrote:
There is no "boting" anymore since multiboxing is illegal. What a crap.
Botting has never been allowed, yet people have been doing it since 2003. Multiboxing is not illegal, input broadcasting is, there is a difference which you evidently haven't managed to grasp.

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I make up a code now:
From now on everyone has to change their underwear every day and so we can check up on that everyone has to wear their underwear outside. Obay or get bumped! Changing underwear permit a day is 10 mill isk btw.
In your case, the pants are on your head.

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Well you know, the difference between you and me is, that I write about alternatives. It´s not about me cause most of the years I played in Eve I did live in a WH. So I could care less about Highsec.
I could care less means that you do care, at least a little bit; learn to English, the correct saying is "I couldn't care less".

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But HIGHSEC is highsec and except rats or missions nothing kills you. Gankers in highsec just not have the balls to survive and make a living somewhere else. Easy pray for them in highsec, weak targets and here and there we abuse some game mechanics to gank more isk out of basicaly pilots who just started the game. And miners and freighters - ah well, they can not shoot back very well. How proud must I be to kill one.
Except that many gankers are alts of people that do live and survive elsewhere, places where things do shoot back.

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Not fair. Sorry.
What is this fair you speak of?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#107 - 2016-03-27 17:22:05 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
No. They do not get freighters with tons of cargo all time. They also kill empty ones and this does not get anyhting much. They are just losing. No ganker wins long term and they are nothing else as gankers. No business people and poor management in my eyes.

Would make more sense to sit in Jita and gank all freighters there but they are just to weak to do this.
i'm not going to argue with you, stupid.
The fact that CODE. will be celebrating it's 4th anniversary this year means that you're so stupidly clueless you don't even realise it.
4 years is a long time, so whatever "long-term" means to you, you should just stop talking


Why would you know? Stats on killboard are evident. Best isk making corp with a ration of 3 loses to 1 win. Lol. Simple math, back to school :)

You are still a noob in Eve but you may learn
CODE. may lose many ships for every one that they kill, however those ships are considerably cheaper than the ships that they kill, CODE. are clearly very efficient by the metric of isk lost to isk killed.

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#108 - 2016-03-27 17:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
No. They do not get freighters with tons of cargo all time. They also kill empty ones and this does not get anyhting much. They are just losing. No ganker wins long term and they are nothing else as gankers. No business people and poor management in my eyes.

Would make more sense to sit in Jita and gank all freighters there but they are just to weak to do this.
i'm not going to argue with you, stupid.
The fact that CODE. will be celebrating it's 4th anniversary this year means that you're so stupidly clueless you don't even realise it.
4 years is a long time, so whatever "long-term" means to you, you should just stop talking


Why would you know? Stats on killboard are evident. Best isk making corp with a ration of 3 loses to 1 win. Lol. Simple math, back to school :)

You are still a noob in Eve but you may learn
CODE. may lose many ships for every one that they kill, however those ships are considerably cheaper than the ships that they kill, CODE. are clearly very efficient by the metric of isk lost to isk killed.


Dream on. Stiil poor preformance
Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#109 - 2016-03-27 17:39:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


Quote:
Well you know, the difference between you and me is, that I write about alternatives. It´s not about me cause most of the years I played in Eve I did live in a WH. So I could care less about Highsec.
I could care less means that you do care, at least a little bit; learn to English, the correct saying is "I couldn't care less".





Well, to start/follow a discussion there is no reason to get personal. I think it is just netiquette in every public forum. You learn more as one language to speak or write and we can go from here :)

I know some people are not very gifted doing so :) So I will overlook your comments about it in the future.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Something Really Pretentious
#110 - 2016-03-27 17:59:26 UTC
Fred, you are obvioulsy trying to flame people.
You are obviously trying to walk away from the questions we ask.
You are obviously unaware that you saying CODE. is bad despite you having a very red kb makes you look very dumb.

Do the maths if you're so smart:
CODE. uses 20-30 1.5m ships to kill a single 1.5b ship, or in your case a 1b ship PLUS a 950m pod.
They lost about 50m tops to kill 2.45b, from whichm dropped.

Now tell me, where, in this euqation, does CODE. lose?
"oh but you lost 30 ships to kill one, you're bad grr"
No, we made enough money to get another 100 from you AP ways.

Why do I say you were Autopiloting?
Well for starters, you lost your pod...
In Highsec...
Without any agression timer...

As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

:)

p.s. I think that in the eyes of C&P, you'd be better just not replying anymore Lol

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#111 - 2016-03-27 18:10:58 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


Quote:
Well you know, the difference between you and me is, that I write about alternatives. It´s not about me cause most of the years I played in Eve I did live in a WH. So I could care less about Highsec.
I could care less means that you do care, at least a little bit; learn to English, the correct saying is "I couldn't care less".





Well, to start/follow a discussion there is no reason to get personal. I think it is just netiquette in every public forum. You learn more as one language to speak or write and we can go from here :)

I know some people are not very gifted doing so :) So I will overlook your comments about it in the future.
Nothing personal, I just hate to see people murdering my native tongue. I speak several languages, albeit badly, and am always happy to accept corrections from native speakers, you should try the same.

"I could care less" is poor grammar, a somewhat controversial american idiom and an oxymoron all rolled in to one.

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Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#112 - 2016-03-27 18:51:35 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:


Fair does captain - but have you considered you might get even more in-game rushes if people were able to pin the consequences of any of your forum actions on you...in-game? Big smile


Potentially, but I wouldn't want any actions from the C&P bully brigade to reflect on my corp mates....there are some real muppets on here sadly....the ones that spend more time on C&P than in game, the "judge" and his cronies

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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2016-03-27 19:03:24 UTC
Nofear Alt wrote:
....the ones that spend more time on C&P than in game, the "judge" and his cronies


Um, if they spend more time here than in-game, should you really have cause to worry?

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Nofear Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#114 - 2016-03-27 19:18:45 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Nofear Alt wrote:
....the ones that spend more time on C&P than in game, the "judge" and his cronies


Um, if they spend more time here than in-game, should you really have cause to worry?


Heh, well they don't spend all their time here - I've had them threaten to " find my identity" and I've seen them organise WH evictions and other such BS....they are a bunch of playground bullies with their "GTFO alts" pathetic calls....which of course I will always ignore. Like many here, it's not worth the hassle to post on my main :-)

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#115 - 2016-03-27 20:29:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Just poor ganker, just poor gankers have to move to highsec :) Nothing else, lets move along. In the meantime I made another 15bill in Jita. Time for a beer.
Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#116 - 2016-03-27 20:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Dom Arkaral wrote:


As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

Lol



Actually, right now I do not adapt nor die :)

Whatever threats you wish to make towards forum members.

Fact is, highsec should be safe. It´s not through some coward gankers atm abusing game mechanics and CCP should consider to rethink about this. Thats all the about my conclusion
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Something Really Pretentious
#117 - 2016-03-27 20:40:02 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:


As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

Lol



Actually, right now I do not adapt nor die :)

Whatever threats you wish to make towards forum members.

Fact is, highsec should be safe. It´s not through some coward gankers atm abusing game mechanics and CCP should consider to rethink about this. Thats all the about my conclusion.

So you're the type of person that says "HHHNNNGGGG Just ONE MORE NURF!!! CCPlease"
It's people like you that make the game rot from the inside.

As for ADAPT OR DIE, it's what you should do.
Either you adapt to the gankers, or you keep dying and crying to them Twisted

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#118 - 2016-03-27 20:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:


As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

Lol



Actually, right now I do not adapt nor die :)

Whatever threats you wish to make towards forum members.

Fact is, highsec should be safe. It´s not through some coward gankers atm abusing game mechanics and CCP should consider to rethink about this. Thats all the about my conclusion.

So you're the type of person that says "HHHNNNGGGG Just ONE MORE NURF!!! CCPlease"
It's people like you that make the game rot from the inside.

As for ADAPT OR DIE, it's what you should do.
Either you adapt to the gankers, or you keep dying and crying to them Twisted


No, you dont get it. Let the gankers be there. I still moved through the system several times without problems. They can´t be everywhere. Thats the game. I also stated somewhere else that it is a cool idea what they are trying to do there.

Just the method WHERE and HOW they do it.... is coward. I can deal with the fact but some other players just wont like it. Sorry, you guys just can´t do better.
Papa Book
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2016-03-27 20:52:18 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:


As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

Lol



Actually, right now I do not adapt nor die :)

Whatever threats you wish to make towards forum members.

Fact is, highsec should be safe. It´s not through some coward gankers atm abusing game mechanics and CCP should consider to rethink about this. Thats all the about my conclusion.

So you're the type of person that says "HHHNNNGGGG Just ONE MORE NURF!!! CCPlease"
It's people like you that make the game rot from the inside.

As for ADAPT OR DIE, it's what you should do.
Either you adapt to the gankers, or you keep dying and crying to them Twisted


No, you dont get it. Let the gankers be there. I still moved through the system several times without problems. They can´t be everywhere. Thats the game. I also stated somewhere else that it is a cool idea what they are trying to do there.

Just the method WHERE and HOW they do it.... is coward. I can deal with the fact but some other players just wont like it. Sorry, you guys just can´t do better.



That's quite the arrogant statement lad. I'd say put your ISK where your mouth is and show the community how's it's done or STFU.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Something Really Pretentious
#120 - 2016-03-27 20:53:24 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:


As Tora would say:
ADAPT OR DIE

Lol



Actually, right now I do not adapt nor die :)

Whatever threats you wish to make towards forum members.

Fact is, highsec should be safe. It´s not through some coward gankers atm abusing game mechanics and CCP should consider to rethink about this. Thats all the about my conclusion.

So you're the type of person that says "HHHNNNGGGG Just ONE MORE NURF!!! CCPlease"
It's people like you that make the game rot from the inside.

As for ADAPT OR DIE, it's what you should do.
Either you adapt to the gankers, or you keep dying and crying to them Twisted


No, you dont get it. Let the gankers be there. I still moved through the system several times without problems. They can´t be everywhere. Thats the game. I also stated somewhere else that it is a cool idea what they are trying to do there.

Just the method WHERE and HOW they do it.... is coward. I can deal with the fact but some other players just wont like it. Sorry, you guys just can´t do better.

Do you do other activities other than crying?
Killing will happen whenever, however and wherever people want.
That's the point of the game (Nowhere is safe but a station)

I'm done dealing with stupid, ciao Cool

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