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Is there any way to protect against screw ups when editing an order?
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Abra Ka Dabra
The Protoss Protectorate
AV0IDLINGS
#21 - 2016-04-10 20:32:02 UTC
Make sure you are the top buy order... then you will just sell to yourself.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2016-04-11 06:28:42 UTC
Cista2 wrote:
It should certainly warn you. The warnings when editing an order come when the edited figure is 100% above, or 50% below, the market average. Sounds like they have been disabled for you.

For other listeners out there, my best general advise is: while you edit, keep your eye on the color of the "% above /below regional price" thing right next your edited price, it usually switches color just when you hit the number of digits that you want in your price.

And/or keep an eye on the "Total change" that is right below your edited price. That amount should not be a crazy wacko amount, and as opposed to your edited price it always shows the punctuations within the number (999.999.999) *while* you are editing it, which makes it a much better alert.



The warning behaviour is... odd.

I post a good number of outlier orders that are far outside usual prices (example: I have regionwide buy orders on 1600mm T2 plates at 300k ISK; fair market price is about 8 times that).

There is no discernable pattern as to whether or not I get a warning.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#23 - 2016-04-11 06:29:43 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I've learned to pause and actually read everything in the box. Contracts are far more risky, and I give those even more time.

The worst I've done is sell to buy orders, and wonder why my sell orders are not appearing. That taught me.



I had a major contract derp recently that fortunately I noticed in time.

I had a bunch of blueprints I wanted moved at a collateral of 400m and a courier fee of 1m. Posted the contract the other way around.

Luckily I realised within a minute, and before anyone else did.

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who1 eva
KEQ Industrial Complex
#24 - 2016-04-30 02:48:24 UTC
Another thing to consider: make sure you trading pilots don't have a lot of extra ISK floating around in their accounts beyond what they actively need. If you have 100B sitting there, you might be able to lose it all in one transaction by accident. Either give excess ISK to other accounts and treat them like a bank or keep your assets in inventory items instead.
Carsten2285
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-06-12 02:30:14 UTC
I also post a fairly large number of outlier orders and that pop-up warning annoys me like you would not believe.

Does anyone know how to shut it off?

I mean, the whole point is to buy low and sell high, right? So why WARN me that I'm buying low or selling high?
Somal Thunder
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2016-06-12 17:18:00 UTC
Senthan Sethir wrote:
Last night I was updating orders, and I use the numeric keypad because it is much faster. The order started with a 3, and I hit the 3 and the enter key at the same time, losing 4 billion ISK because I hit that enter key several digits to early.

I have not disabled any of the market warnings because I know I need all the protection against being an idiot I can get, but it just accepted an order edit that was 99.99% below the market average with no warning. When I screw up and create initial sell orders that are well below the average it warns me. Is there any way to get that same warning for editing orders?


The only advice I can give you is to use a tool that puts the correct price on your clipboard, there was a tool called Elinor that used to do this but sadly it doesn't seem to work for some people. There was another tool called Elinor Reloaded but that doesn't work either. Both of them are open source though, so you can just take the important stuff out and write your own version.

On that note, maybe Evernus has this functionality? There is a thing called "Margin Tool" that does some kind of auto-copying, but I don't know much about it. I really just recommend you find something that works really well for you and most importantly, that you're fast with. If you want to multibox traders or casually update orders while watching TV or whatever, you need to have a foolproof system to protect against screw ups, and good tools are your best friend!
Cara Nightshade
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-07-10 10:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Cara Nightshade
Lost 800 mil to this kind of crap. It should fill top bidder's orders first but nah,it'll fill bottom dollar orders you can't even see. I'd say lets give everyone every possible chance to avoid PvP ranging from timers to NPC corps but they've done it,much to the benefit of their subscription rate.....

I quit PvP to try the only thing left that CCP removed timers and massively obvious warnings from...I should be groveling at their feet right?


I dare CCP to prove me wrong
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#28 - 2016-07-10 11:00:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Cara Nightshade wrote:
Lost 800 mil to this kind of crap. It should fill top bidder's orders first but nah,it'll fill bottom dollar orders you can't even see. I'd say lets give everyone every possible chance to avoid PvP ranging from timers to NPC corps but they've done it,much to the benefit of their subscription rate.....

I quit PvP to try the only thing left that CCP removed timers and massively obvious warnings from...I should be groveling at their feet right?


I dare CCP to prove me wrong


This 'crap' is simply you not paying enough attention to what you've typed before hitting the confirm button. The cheapest sell order or the highest buy order in your specified range is always executed first, at the price you typed, but it can be argued the broker should be more helpful. You cannot avoid PVP in this game, merely using the market is PVP because most of the actors involved are other players. I can't remember the name of the presentation, but it was either at EVE Vegas or Fanfest and the CCP developer presenting basically stated those who get blown up during their trial play longer than those who do not, I would expect it's the same for those who join player corps too.

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